Yeah, before it was a few isolated cases, but now it feels EVERY match there is a SPAA that J outs as soon as they spot a AGM, spike or hellfire going towards them, others simply spawn, shoot all missiles and J out immedietly afterwards, less than 20 seconds in the match, often teamkilling by accident a friendly plane in the process.
J out for any reason in ground RB, should function the same as J out in Air RB, giving the kill for the closest enemy, even if they are very far away.
In case of Spaa it should go to the closest AIR enemy, to counter this trend even more where it hurts Spaa mains
Honestly, denying airfield rushers kills is the only form of kill denial that I approve of. AF defenses are such a mess rn, making AF camping easy, whilst giving almost no protection for people repairing.
You can discuss with the premise of “can happen somewhere” which is what i have been doing.
Try googling it :)
(not red shirts specifically, just lawsuits for ridiculous reasons)
100% subjective opinion.
And again, not in all places and all systems.
Huh?
I don’t understand here.
So why have you been arguing that something doesn’t and can’t happen (like at all, you’ve been using universal blanket statements the entire time) when it absolutely can and do happen in other systems with vague laws.
That was the discussion though.
That does happen.
Example:
In Sweden when you work as a personal assistant you are required to help the handicapped person with anything they ask in order to help them live as normal life as possible. It has become an actual issue when those handicapped people ask for illegal actions as the assistant would be breaking the law if they do and breaking the law if they don’t.
Yep.
Subjective.
Just because there are examples that do, doesn’t men there aren’t examples that don’t.
Never said the level of noise would be the potential the issue.
To add to this entire discussion, what do you define as “normal” driving?
Your point has been clear, i just don’t agree with those points having any effect on if that does happen or not. what you think is ridiculous or “clown” doesn’t change the fact that it exists.
Already given you many. None of those linked cases have defined laws or explicitly states that those exact action are illegal.
Sheesh…there is more dialogue on law and squawking about legalese than the Supreme Court takes up!
I think it’s fairly obvious that you guys have very different views on matters and that those differences are irreconcilable. I now pronounce you War Thunder players!
Because using a feature for its intended purpose is bad, but abusing a feature just to spite someone cause you can’t accept that they bested you, is good.
CAS hater logic makes perfect straightforward sense.
You shouldn’t throw the word logic around when you quite literally just stated you find it acceptable to abuse J out to deny kills on runway because you’re “defenceless” (ignoring AAA), whilst vilifying Jing out in ground vehicles to avoid dying to CAS in this thread (largely actually defenceless).
Your pretence of “fair play” has gone out the window and you’ve shown your hand in this matter and your hypocritical standards based on your bias towards CAS.
Jing out to deny a kill is either okay and using the feature as intended (to leave the vehicle) or it isn’t and is abusing the purpose of it. You don’t get to pick and choose as you like.
Right, and? We know you weren’t referring to near airfield given you specifically referenced AAA being a mess and you were clearly talking about main airfield.
Even if we pretend for a second that you weren’t and were talking about near airfield, it still wouldn’t make your post any less hypocritical since you are still saying it’s alright to J out to deny kills in one instance and then saying it’s not in another.
And even aside from that, of course near airfield has no defence. The whole point of it is that it is a risk to land there to rearm or repair because it has the advantage of being closer to the battlefield. You’re trading a quicker turn around time for no security, but you know this already because you were referencing the main airfield and how AAA is in your opinion not very good and this somehow justifies denying kills.
I will reiterate.
Jing out to deny a kill is either okay and using the feature as intended (to leave the vehicle) or it isn’t and is abusing the purpose of it. You don’t get to pick and choose as you like.
The fact that you are unable to understand your double standards and hypocrisy is baffling.
I’m not the one writing the rules either, I’m only using the opinions of the GM and cited lines as well as your own reasoning earlier in this thread to point out your biased hypocritical stance.
On one hand you say that Jing out in a ground vehicle to avoid dying to CAS (which most ground vehicles are absolutely powerless against) is an abuse of the J out function and should be banworthy.
On the other hand you say that Jing out in an air vehicle to deny a kill to another plane on airfield (where you’re reliant on AAA being effective) is totally fine and acceptable and not an abuse of the J out function.
You’re using the same feature for the same reason with the same result. This is textbook “rules for thee but not for me” that you, to great amusement, quoted earlier.
If you can’t see the unabashed hypocrisy inherent between holding both these opinions then you’re a complete lost cause buried in an avalanche of your own bias.