SPAA J'ing out before you can kill them

for anything 10.0+ and with guided bombs/missiles, yes.

No. The same treatment as SPAA. If 8.3+ SPAA has shorter spawn protection, all 8.3+ planes take off from airfield.

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Are other radar SPAA ok? Or do You have some SPAA that are not ok?

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You’re trying to make this a compromise which is just stupid. The whole point of reducing spawn prot to a balanced amount of time is to make counterplay possible. There’s 0 reason to make anything without guided ordinance have AF spawn.

You mean like the M163 whos radar just sucks? It’s not 8.3 anyways.

More like russian ones ;)

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And you are trying to make SPAA more vunerable by lowering spawn protection timer which is stupid. Counterplay is no inbalanced at all.

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if you’re struggling in SPAA because your spawn prot isn’t long enough, then you’re just seriously bad.

meh, atleast they get good radar and guns. They’d do fine at 8.3

So me taking ZSU-23-4 will be enough?

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Enough for what? it’s a pretty decent SPAA.

And I can destroy it with F-84F without any issue.

If you are struggling with SPAA because of spawn protection you are even more bad.

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I specified Gepard bruh. It’s 8.3

I’ll post the video then when I do it.

I don’t struggle with SPAA, but thanks for admitting you rely on spawn prot too much.

Sure, so you are asking to lower spawn protection time because you are not struggling with SPAA.

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The question should be with what he is not struggling.

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His challenge confuses me, it is easy to fly in low and drop on an SPAA in the F-84F. I’ve done it/seen it done many times to Gepards, Shilkas, Yenseis, and even Yorks.

I mean, unless you are using 20km (or 25, I don’t remember exactly because I mix up the Shilka, Gepard, and M247 ranges) search distance planes can spawn without you realising and hit the deck before your 10km detection range and surprise you with a low level bomb run. The basic “stay under the radar” kind of attack.

The problem is there being no counterplay. I don’t struggle against SPAA but i’ve died because I couldn’t fight back against one with spawn prot b4. There aren’t any reasons not to reduce its spawn prot time.