wdym 700-900sp should have a hard time to do anything, if not die in vain, under a 70sp SPAA?
It’s like sayin, 2500sp nuke should take off in the tank battlefield, to be vulnerable to 200sp second spawn tanks xD
If anything they should give drones to spaa, other problem is sometimes you have nothing to do, being able to fly a drone would at least eliminate the downtime, and you could avoid getting killed by people pushing you in your spawn or on your side of the map. I’d say they need them more than light tank ever did.
2 Likes
not necessarily no
SPAA should be as strong against CAS as CAS is against tanks. That’s how balance works.
1 Like
If SPAA was also double the spawn cost of CAS, then sure. Because SPAA is less than 1/5th the spawn cost of CAS, there is absolutely no reason for it to be stronger.
The point is to be a counter. SPAA has little influence outside of countering CAS, so to increase its costs would be ridiculous. Vehicles like the ADATS have an increased spawn cost because of their potency against ground vehicles.
The focus of ground should be ground, and cheap SPAA is one way to ensure that happens.
ideally, all should haver a similar cost
SPAA > Planes
Planes > Tanks
Tanks > SPAA
However, if SPAA had as much of an advantage CAS has against tanks, it wouldn’t look pretty for CAS, let’s be honest
But it would be balanced, in its own twisted way i suppose
That’s how imbalance works.
Imagine ground players crying CAS TOO STRONG after a 13kill SU22 match without any brained SPAA, regardless of the presence of strela at the br, mw su22 dies to a single stinger at full load.
And another logic chain. Vulnerable CAS so normal players spawn less, so less planes to hunt, less profit for SPAA: less players spawn SPAA. Then someone with skills spawned a CAS and find a no SPAA match 💀
Oh and another thing. CAS is 7-900sp. Heli Rush is 300. If they are 70-100 this countering-thing works.
Tell that to the Gepard lmao.
SPAA has a larger advantage against CAS than CAS has against tanks with the exception of vehicles like the Dicker Max or Maus.
The reason you see CAS winning fights against SPAA is because no skilled player wants to play SPAA cause it’s boring. The only people playing SPAA are noobs who don’t have enough SP for a tank, and and players who are salty that they died to CAS (which 9 times outta 10, these salty players suck anyways).
Guys can we also take a glance on CAP?
if you bring a double reactor bomber to do CAS it’s a you issue
Yes you carry more bombs, but you are at risk of being deleted more easily by MANPADS
Every tree at 9.0 BR as at least something that can counter manpads slingers, be it Migs, Sabres or whatever. Especially considering how poorly modelled they are.
Let’s not even talk about helis and their invisible IR signature.
1 Like
Not a bad idea. Would also create a reason to use the drone feature too- though I doubt many people would gravitate towards SPAA for it. People gravitate towards Light tanks to rat, not fly a silly drone. Still not against it, definitely worth adding ^^
As far as i’m aware, CAS can fight back against SPAA.
I’m not aware of any tanks being able to fight back to a plane dropping CCIP bombs or guided AGM on it however.
I’d call myself a decent SPAA player, and even i can’t do anything against a pilot who knows what he’s doing, 9.0 being the exception
1 Like
im just saying its guided cas isnt overbearing until 11.7
It’s very easy to just pop smoke or stay near buildings to avoid guided weapons.
CAS NEEDS to expose themself to SPAA to get kills, but tanks don’t need to expose themself to CAS.
SPAA is extremely easy to play. The only times that I lose to CAS is when there’s multiple planes attacking me at once (which in that case it’s not even about CAS, you’re at a disadvantage in a 1v3 anyways), and when I goof up and don’t watch my ammo.
2 Likes
Some SPAA dont have smoke, some maps don’t have cover (whatever that arctic research station or whatever map is horrible), and sometimes you don’t really know if you are being launched on if you don’t have a LWR. The LWR in the 2S38 has saved me countless times from CAS I had no idea was there, but when I get a laser warning and there’s no way it came from a tank its obvious its from top down aspect from a plane.
3 Likes
you can defend against any spaa that isnt the overperfoming strela
huh
No ? I mean it’s not like war thunder maps are under ground. If you arrive at a 90° angle you can see a tank, no matter where he hides
1 Like
I was talking about non SPAA tanks in that specific example.
That’s a map issue, not a CAS issue. There’s maps that screw over CAS aswell.
Unless SPAA is just completely braindead, you can’t just approach from straight above.
So the tanks “advantage” against CAS is directly related to the existence of SPAA, not to tank themselves.
It’s like saying paper wins against scissors because rock wins against scissors, it doesn’t make any sense.
I will therefore repeat what i said earlier : if you want SPAA, tanks and CAS balanced, it would mean make CAS as vulnerable to SPAA as tanks are currently to CAS, which would basically make CAS defenseless when a AA is up.
That’s not to say it is what i want of course