Nice! hope you were doing well. Glad to see ya again too.
I gave up playing things like the osa or roland because of this. I die to enemy tanks more than planes. Sitting in spawn no matter how well your team is doing you will die to spawn campers.
And because everytime you shoot, you basically also shoot a giant streaming flare saying “here is a free kill and where I am” its impossible to hide anywhere, and some maps are just dreadful.
SPAA without guns that arent rat tanks like the weasel are miserable to play.
1 Like
yes, so lets add more AA, balance AA and CAS, therefore creating counter play. Not advocate for Aircraft to be removed from Ground?
Real. Type 93’s only redeeming factor is that you can zoom around if your team controls a massive area, or find cheeky spots that your team can cover you from. Also just being able to avoid being kill because of raw speed. Other AA don’t have that, which makes them miserable as hell. You rely completely on your team, whereas your team (at these BRs) only look ahead of them for a kill.
Always glad to see people clown on certain individuals arguing SPAA is the issue, and not cas, some will argue for an eternity just so that their US 9.0 whatever lineup can be stronger, but it ain’t ever happening.
Anyway i’m gonna take my ozelot for a spin.
Imagine cancer rolling without a repetitive route and spit a bomb accurately without a CCIP on the worst gepard player that opens fire at over 4km and drove himself right on your attack route.
Holy skill issue not to understand how CAS works
Roland yes, Manpads not. Not every plane has a “Avg Fighter maneuverability”, especially at manpad brs, where the best dogfighters & the best mav slingers coexists with the heaviest dumb bomb brick & speed bleeders.
i dont think its op i think its the most balanced in the game tbh, when i spawn a plane at 10.3 bracket i need to play around spaas, usually its the other way around and its how it should be
wdym 700-900sp should have a hard time to do anything, if not die in vain, under a 70sp SPAA?
It’s like sayin, 2500sp nuke should take off in the tank battlefield, to be vulnerable to 200sp second spawn tanks xD
If anything they should give drones to spaa, other problem is sometimes you have nothing to do, being able to fly a drone would at least eliminate the downtime, and you could avoid getting killed by people pushing you in your spawn or on your side of the map. I’d say they need them more than light tank ever did.
2 Likes
not necessarily no
SPAA should be as strong against CAS as CAS is against tanks. That’s how balance works.
1 Like
If SPAA was also double the spawn cost of CAS, then sure. Because SPAA is less than 1/5th the spawn cost of CAS, there is absolutely no reason for it to be stronger.
The point is to be a counter. SPAA has little influence outside of countering CAS, so to increase its costs would be ridiculous. Vehicles like the ADATS have an increased spawn cost because of their potency against ground vehicles.
The focus of ground should be ground, and cheap SPAA is one way to ensure that happens.
ideally, all should haver a similar cost
SPAA > Planes
Planes > Tanks
Tanks > SPAA
However, if SPAA had as much of an advantage CAS has against tanks, it wouldn’t look pretty for CAS, let’s be honest
But it would be balanced, in its own twisted way i suppose
That’s how imbalance works.
Imagine ground players crying CAS TOO STRONG after a 13kill SU22 match without any brained SPAA, regardless of the presence of strela at the br, mw su22 dies to a single stinger at full load.
And another logic chain. Vulnerable CAS so normal players spawn less, so less planes to hunt, less profit for SPAA: less players spawn SPAA. Then someone with skills spawned a CAS and find a no SPAA match 💀
Oh and another thing. CAS is 7-900sp. Heli Rush is 300. If they are 70-100 this countering-thing works.
Tell that to the Gepard lmao.
SPAA has a larger advantage against CAS than CAS has against tanks with the exception of vehicles like the Dicker Max or Maus.
The reason you see CAS winning fights against SPAA is because no skilled player wants to play SPAA cause it’s boring. The only people playing SPAA are noobs who don’t have enough SP for a tank, and and players who are salty that they died to CAS (which 9 times outta 10, these salty players suck anyways).
Guys can we also take a glance on CAP?
if you bring a double reactor bomber to do CAS it’s a you issue
Yes you carry more bombs, but you are at risk of being deleted more easily by MANPADS
Every tree at 9.0 BR as at least something that can counter manpads slingers, be it Migs, Sabres or whatever. Especially considering how poorly modelled they are.
Let’s not even talk about helis and their invisible IR signature.
1 Like
Not a bad idea. Would also create a reason to use the drone feature too- though I doubt many people would gravitate towards SPAA for it. People gravitate towards Light tanks to rat, not fly a silly drone. Still not against it, definitely worth adding ^^