Only when you’re in a light load F-16 or similar vehicle. Ever tried to CAS with a Tornado? It’s fast but not manuverable, I was once shot down by a 2S6 when while manuvering at high altitude. And they claim the 2S6 sucked so bad they needed Pantsir S1. And here come the “sKiLL iSsUe” complainers…
yeah so it should be 1600 at least clearly
Top tier isn’t the whole game.
Some prop attackers can be super cheap for a plane that can easily kill 4+ tanks.
Any cas with air to ground weaponry should be atleast 900-1000sp to spawn. Currently they can be as low as 600 for 2-4 free kills, while also being very hard to kill if the cas player has a brain.
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You know what should be fixed? the fact that it costs 863+ SP for 2-6 AGM-65 or 657+ for 4 GBUs, but it only costs 549 SP for 16 Hellfires or Vikhrs. Seems balanced
900-1000 sp you can spawn drone already for 750 sp and drone are harder detect then CAS.
Large radar contact moving slowly and unmanuverable within range of top tier SPAA? Maybe your radar operator is just on crack
The problem i see with this is that many SPAA are kind useless against ground vehicles, so if you spawn one, theres a chance there may be no one on the field you can contest.
I think the cost of all planes should go up.
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im all for increase in SP and AF spawn. Will at least stop players from abusing the system when using M2A4 to cap and 1 assist just to J out and use CAS planes like F-4Us with a full load early game. Something that happen when helis were added. Players did that just to use Heli with ATGM early game. Its unsportsmanlike and abusive. None the less, SPAA and planes can still counter them if one decides to deal with CAS. Unless the team allows the enemy to CAS just cuz they refuse to use the tools available to them then…GG.
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CAS doesn’t need the increase in SP. Motivation to actually use SPAA or anti-air focused aircraft should be increased.
CAS is by far the most expensive thing to spawn on. Sure, you can get a lot of kills one game, and other game you will be sniped by shit tons of pantsirs or tors and have no SP left. SPAA is in contrary the cheapest. You can spawn, die, spawn with backup, die, and still have enough SP to spawn on mbt. Planes with no A2G loadout are not that expensive too.
The issue is that on SPAA and A2A focused planes you can only kill (mostly) air targets, and you are useless otherwise. That’s why a lot of people don’t bother spawning then if there is one guy CASing
You know that You can do M2A4 to spawn most of helis after first spawn? Like AH-1F ;).
It is also necessary to improve the effectiveness of the SPAA, they need a functional AA sight, many times you need to shoot without using the sight to be able to see the trajectory of the plane at the cost of not having a reference point to shoot, so many times you miss when shooting or you miss by a few centimeters, another thing is that there are many SPAA that when shooting generate too much smoke and light so you don’t see anything when shooting frequently, they also have to check the damage, it can’t be that a 30mm airplane I disintegrated another plane instead the same 30mm of SPAA only did damage without further ado (more than one plane has withstood hits from the ZSU-57-2), it is also necessary to desynchronize the cannons in the double weapons, for example SPAA like the M42 could fire one cannon first and then the other, maintaining a continuous fire and preventing the plane from passing between bullets (the wirbelwind could fire the cannons on one side and then those on the other).
I have always said that the planes in GRB look good to me, but they desperately need a balance, as you have said, you have to raise the necessary SP to avoid premature planes (I mentioned doing a minimum of 4 kills first with tanks before taking out a plane), and apart from giving the SPAA the possibilities that they really had, the game cannot continue with the planes so unbalanced and the SPAA so underperformed.
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NIce answer again from someone with CAS as main weapon in GRB.
I mean use SPAA and get better at it is perfect answer, But in my opinion SPAA rewards kills should be a little bit buffed to encourage people into using them
Which is something that needs fixing cuz i seen your video and you basically done just that. Abused the system. Sadly no one played SPAA/plane correctly you succeeded in doing CAS. Also, I didn’t see reckless playstyle, was all strategically made when you saw a SPAA shooting you. You kept a distance and then engaged while SPAA gave away its position instead of waiting for you to do another strike elsewhere.
100% with ya, improving the SPAA gameplay needs improvements. The amount of times I seen SPAA player do is shoot tanks like mini IFV lol Not designed for it. Both needs need to be done.
That wont stop. People see an auto cannon with decent pen and a full AP belt and go meme td mode.
I suggest that they remove full AP belt and keep the 50/50 belt for self defense. Of course there are some people who will say that doing this would “ruin” spaa. But it only ruins spaa if you see spaa as tds.
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Just make the AP belts cost more SP, they already do it with plane belts. If you want to be a cheap spawn AA no problem, but if you want to troll around blapping tanks, then you can have tank spawn cost.
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But with the SPAA you can’t do much else either, without good looks AA the SPAA depend completely on whether the player with the plane is incompetent or that by spending his bombs he wants to kill a SPAA by making a frontal attack on it so that he can die killing one last enemy. and take out another tank or plane, and apart from that we have the increasingly smaller maps that mean that almost just by leaving the respawn someone can kill you, so many people use them as light anti-tank with low SP cost. The bad thing about the SPAA in the game is the fact that they are the weakest vehicle, you have to be watching the air so that a plane doesn’t kill you and the ground so that a tank doesn’t kill you, when you look at the sky you get shot and when you look at the ground they throw a bomb at you, that’s why many changes need to be made in GRB so that everything is well balanced.
Because CAS requires no skill. Duh.
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Very good idea. I doubt that the devs will see this tho. You should make your own thread and explain this.