And so if you want to prove something to the snails, you can try to request documents from the state archive.
https://rgavmf.ru/fond/r-840/fond-r-840-opis-4
Only 3 swiss boilers were integrated, and never get tested. Only the estimated speed known. With the first “original” propulsion (what it was tested, own russian propulsion system, cant do over 20knt), thats why they changed to the swiss ones.
And bye the way: I linked the source, its from a researcher, Mark Stille - Super-Battleships of World War II_ Montana-class, Lion-class, H-class, A-150 and Sovetsky Soyuz-class
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No thank you. From russian goverment we can get many things. Real data and truth? Thats hilarious.
I prefer westerns studies, researchers.
Maybe you can get that documents.
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It’s not a research book, just fiction one. There is no links on sources. It’s like state that Soviet Union could not produce t-34 cause in 1940 they produced only 115 of them, ignoring that in 1942 they produced 12521 and in 1943 - 15696, and t-34-85 1944 -10663, 1945 - 12551.
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Every top tier soviet ship was OP at launch and got nerfed to shambles after some time, i hope it happens again
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Of course, I prefer documents illegally provided by those who like to make their country stronger.
But if you want to really weaken Pr-23, you need something stronger than an unknown person’s research based on Wikipedia
unknown person…
My source is Mark Stille: Osprey Publishing (US)
“Mark Stille is the author of numerous Osprey titles focusing on naval history in the Pacific. He recently concluded a nearly 40-year career in the intelligence community, including tours on the faculty of the Naval War College, on the Joint Staff and on US Navy ships. He received his BA in History from the University of Maryland and also holds an MA from the Naval War College.”
Yeah… “Unknown”
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Wow fan fiction writer from the college. That proofs everything? If he is historian he must know how historian work done properly, with links to documents and work in archives. Not just printing thousands of pamphlets.
I’m accountant by degree, trust me. Sell dollars, buy gaijncoins. It’s trustworthy currency. Always backed with new products.
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Fanfiction writer from college? Really? Have you checked his bio? Yeah… sure.
You just simple doesn’t accept anything what doesnt fit with you opinion.
Who will be a “real” historian for you? Tell me names.
And bye the way almost the whole ship is based on Russian pamphlets… so “real”…
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I guess wiki only good when it makes bs paper ship even stronger hey?
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I only have suspicions about the discrepancy between the diagram and the cellars for ammunition of caliber 37 mm, mm, 100 mm, 152 mm.
Those who practice historical science, not just some fiction writers, obviously. RTFM what is science and what is not.
Mark Stille does practice historical science, even has a historian degree… but nm…
[Amazon.com: Mark Stille: books, biography, latest update]
Mark Stille: Bloomsbury Publishing (US)
[‘The Divine Wind’ with Mark Stille, Jonathan Parshall & John Curatola]
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKkIQiTVc0Q&ab_channel=TheNationalWWIIMuseum)
“Mark Stille is an author and historian. He completed a career as a US Navy intelligence officer in 2000 after having served on the Joint Staff, on the faculty of the Naval War College, on several other operational tours, and as a member of the ships’ companies of carriers Nimitz and Carl Vinson. After leaving the Navy, he continued a career in the intelligence community for another 18 years and served as a senior intelligence officer for China. As a historian, Stille’s primary focus has been on naval operations and warfare with a focus on the Pacific war, bringing unique insight on Pacific war battles and campaigns stemming from his experiences as a naval officer and intelligence professional. To date, he has had 64 books published”
Its enough historian for you now? Or you argue with the The National WWII Museum of US bio about him…
I used his works for source. Guess what: he researched those as a historian scientist…
Now: can we go back to the main topic? Sovietskii Soyuz isn’t fit to the data. Even the “fictional” is wrong. - one shell as wrong TNT data, its armour is not real, ammo has way bigger storages, speed is “estimated”, and the 406 gun accuracy is a false.
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Do you read his books, that a fiction books not science one. You can be and high grade scientist and write fairy tales don’t you know?
Real DM of shell room is actually much bigger than VM, so following shell room’s size on blueprint.
Also, do note that that blueprint is based on LWL, and Soyuz ingame sits in DWL.
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Lower one still has LWL rather than DWL ingame ,but yeah, more accurate.
Of course these are not 2-3 pages of the American study, but here you need to translate 176 pages
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