Southeast Asian (ASEAN) Machinery Of War Discussion Thread

the smokey bandits

tho there was rumor of ID MoD wanted used Kazakh MiG-29 as aggressor not long ago, thankfully got dismissed

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List of Hawk 209 bug reports, reposting here incase people missed it

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ID Rafale C spotted! T-0317

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amazing sound

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would you make Suggestion for retrofitted (Late) Hawk 209? because i still remember sometimes ago there is news article about modernized hawk 209 that use more modern avionic and ability to use AMRAAM and later all aspect sidewinders


New news. This time Indonesian Air Force negotiating for purchase of 18 M346FI light combat jet with AESA Radar.

Source: Keris Reborn

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Maybe Leonardo’s sales pitch from few months ago might bear fruit, we shall see

From what I’ve heard its to act as a trainer for the Rafale since apparently the T-50 is not as good as a trainer for the Rafale specifically

I dont recall there was ever such a plan? The only thing close to it that I know is that Infoglobal proposed a new Cockpit layout for the Hawk 100/200 series back in February


  • Infoglobal booth, International Defense Exhibition & Conference (IDEX). Abu Dhabi, February 2025
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Also worth noting that KERIS mentioned amongst the recent Helicopter purchases for the supposed “200 Helis” plan, several Mi-35Ms are included in the deal

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The contract was pressed into action a couple of days prior for disaster relief in Aceh & some of the helis has already appeared on Aceh. Now why would an attack heli be included for cargo? Who knows

https://x.com/LembagaKERIS/status/2000912739922010425

do note that this contract is through our Belarus/UAE broker, not the Turkish one

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Anyone know when Thailand will officially start getting their Gripen Es delivered to them?

It would be really cool to see it added alongside the Indonesian Rafale F4 to War Thunder eventually

I heard it will be around 2029

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idk i kinda read the news several year ago (maybe, idk it’s hazy from my memories) from formil group about Hawk modernization alongside T-50i upgrade with cannon and radar.

Watching Infantry CBT right now, Oxy mentioned that Infantry mode will focus on modern warfare but will extended to Korean war (WW2 reserved for Enlisted) and he also mention that there will be more nations added to the game for modern era (probably more like Battlefield or Squad) so there is a chance we might going to suggest various SEA nations army and firearms to the game (the big 5 like Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore and Philippines) imagine Battlefield but with SEA nations add on and front around South china sea archipelago.

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hmmm, looks a lot like the Advanced Jet Trainer Hawk Cockpits
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I would love to see literally anyone adopt the Hawk-i cockpit though
The hud looks very nice

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Quite some time away then

I suppose Rafale F4 will be the only one until the F-35 starts getting added for everyone

I mean the SPICES do provide some nice a2g ability, but for now I feel like the Rafale F4 will provide a lot more utility overall since we already have Kh-38s with the MKM. ID spec RF4s will give us HAMMERs, Meteors, and IRIS-Ts all in one package which will likely be tied for the best platform Japan could get besides the F-15JSI until 5th gens are added. At the same time, it would have been nice to have the Gripen E before it’s been massively powercrept by future 5th gens.

Did they sign anything that makes it for sure? Would Gaijin except that?

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This is speculation on my part, but there is a chance contracts and promises likely aren’t enough for Gaijin (we saw how the Thai Hornet situation turned out) depending on the reasoning of the ID/MY situation. In the community post, they said that ID would be the next air tree followed by MY some time down the line. However we ended up getting MY with ID possibly delayed. One explanation could be that for an ID subtree, the Raf F4 will be the centerpiece and they could’ve delayed it to wait until ID took delivery of the actual airframes first thinking it would happen before the update.

The alternative explanation is they didn’t want to move onto the Raf F4 yet, but I wouldn’t see why since the F3R we have in game already has some F4 features meaning an F4 wouldn’t add a whole lot over what we currently have. It could also be that they want the F4 to be added when we see the next gen of missiles too.

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Its a bit difficult I guess hopfully the Thai sub tree will get her Hawk 75N with the 23mm cannon I dont think they got the plane but they did buy it. Or did they get some?

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The other thing Gaijin could wait for is confirmation that construction of the planes has started there are usually some sort of calibration when that happens. Lots of drinks and food with some photos.

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