Sons of Attila - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 2)

will the F16aj be a permanent tech tree vehicle or will it be removed when F2 comes?

They wouldn’t be empty stores though, it’s no different to the inner pylon on an F-16

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@AlvisWisla @BearHasLanded I found this online but i dont know how acuate it is

I think it’s safe to say that’s a “no”.
It’d be a better question to ask: “Will F-16AJ turn into a different F-16 if Japan gets a sub-tree?”

@BearHasLanded
They would. They can carry AAMs but you wouldn’t want them to some weird reason to keep F-18C 12.0 instead of 12.3 or 12.7.

@ArmyKris1
That’s accurate enough. The dual mount on F-18C’s interior pylons is for AMRAAMs only tho, otherwise single mount for AIM-7s. No AIM-9s allowed on those pylons.

ok good to know, i just picked one that i thought looked accurate

I’m saying there is a place for the F/A-18C (Early) with the loadout I described in it’s full historical accuracy and then an F/A-18C (Late) with 10 AMRAAMs I just don’t see what issue you could possibly have with having a historically accurate and game balanced aircraft, there isn’t a good reason in this case to give it extra missiles it never used.

Cause it’s balanced being correct rather than artificially nerfing it as the first ever artificially nerfed jet in a tech tree for no reason when the BRs already exist for it to be in its correct state.

It isn’t artificially nerfed though, it is exactly how it was IRL, you’re trying to artificially buff it for no good reason

IRL F-18C can carry 10 AAMs excluding AMRAAMs that increase it to 12.
6x AIM-9s, and 4x AIM-7s.
Or 6x AIM-7s and 2x AIM-9s.
The fact you call reality “artificial” is sad.
I guess we should remove 2x 9Ls from Tornado ADV.
Or prevent Eurofighter from taking 2 missiles too…
That’s the precedent that your idea would start.

Why not just have one F-18 with Aim-120’s and a diffrent vertion without it?

F-18C even has blocks. Block 20 has AMRAAM support and can be added for AMRAAMs.

I dont know mutch about it so i guess you are right, tho my point is if we add a F-18A/C without it then add a F-18C/E with it, so we dont get so many simuar Aircrafts

No it’s not, the introduction of the AMRAAM will have required some rewiring in the F/A-18s, the fact that AIM-7s only appear on the inboard pylon after that should be enough.

The issue is that the F/A-18A kinda sucked, for gameplay anyway it kinda makes more sense to have a C (Early), C (Late) and E, with the Cs being in a folder together

Thats the part where you wrong.

F-14D using some of the F-15’s radar technology which gives it better radar modes, best part is it will get medium pd mode. İt also using quite modern cockpit which is another pros for sim enjoyers.

Not to mention since Usa trialed Aim-120’s on Tomcat it will probably get Amraams alongside with Aim-9Ms.

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man imagine if Japan got an F14, now that i think about it that is one way they could bolster the Japanese air TT is with tested vehicles

Devs have not decided yet, and really too early to think about it…

It may depend on Feedback when the F-2 is in game, and then decisions can then be made

There are Marketplace skins for the F-16AJ, and so that may also be taken into consideration when the time comes

So, really just too early to talk about it right now

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I don’t think there is a single Japan TT player that would be sad if the F-16AJ got deleted and replaced with the XF-2A, the F-2 prototype.

XF-2A carries AIM7 + 9Ls, has similar radar… is real most importantly
Is unique not copy pasta

Could have added this beauty
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Gaijin made a whoopsies, its OK

Edit: lol at reporters. This was in direct response to a mod post in this thread

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@Pacifica
It’d be better replaced with an F-16A from Thailand if Thailand is decided as a sub tree for Japan.
With either marketplace skins remade, or F-16AJ moved off to the side of the tree like other vehicles.
That way we keep a 12.0 and XF-2A can be 12.7/13.0 with its full armament.

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When we had this discussion on the old forum, a large part of the justification for the aircraft came not just from the fighter position it holds now, but also for how it provides an AGM-CAS/fighter for the top ranks - that 's not something the F-2, or really anything else the JSDF operates, could fill.

There 's always the possibility of a subtree providing an vehicle to supersede the requirements that created the need for F-16AJ, but those could’ve easily fixed the SAM-SPAA gap in the same TT too - it doesn’t appear that there 's any serious evidence of development in that direction for the JPN, so the AJ will likely stay to atleast a significant length of time after the F-2 appears, if not always.

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