Sons of Attila - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 2)

Yes, it will do nothing, as most planes br are based on their AtA peeformance

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Couldn’t you have asked fleet air arm museum about this?

I know they have at least have one FRS1 and I imagen they might have more in their storage hangers

Dev server client updated to 2.29.0.9

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Hm.
Any major changes?

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My brother in War Thunder, the F-16AJ is completely fake and never existed in real life, the only thing that existed was the brochure by General Dynamics which mentions an F-16AJ as a possible development for Japan if they ever chose it (which they didn’t). Said F-16AJ would also be different than the one in-game.

Japanese pilots never even TEST FLEW AN F-16, let alone had an F-16 built for them. They already chose the F-15 by the time they were supposed to fly a normal US F-16, and didn’t get further than that.

Never flew it, never existed, it shouldn’t have AAM-3 or AIM-9M or anything else that it currently has. It is already a disgrace that Japan has a better F-16A than the US, combining the best maneuverability, radar missiles and A2G ordinance, while the F-16ADF is nerfed in flight performance compared to the basic A model and doesn’t have the A2G ordinance it was upgraded with.

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Is this just wishlisting or datamined?

YF-16 is a very real prototype, and the rest of your rant is not related to me as I never mentioned AAM-3s nor AIM-9Ms.
Just vibe…

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Genuinely interested in knowing if there’s any documents, photos, etc that show it’s a real aircraft, beyond a paper proposal?

https://www.f-16.net/aircraft-database/F-16/airframe-profile/2/

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That’s YF-16 which would be a development American F-16 as far as i’m aware. No japanese markings or F16AJ designation though?

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The Fleet Air Arm museum has 1 FRS.1 and it’s on public display on a raised ski-ramp deck area with no cockpit access.

We managed to locate and collect other materials and the cockpit has now been fully recreated in game.

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I mentioned the AAM-3 and AIM-9M due to some other users whishing for it.

The YF-16 is real, sure, but is in no way connected to F-16AJ and - it wasn’t a modification made to be similar to the proposed F-16AJ and is in no way related to the F-16AJ.

The F-16AJ ONLY existed as a proposal in a brochure and nowhere else. It was not physically built and there were no F-16s modified to the F-16AJ standard.

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ah-1Z get hmd

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it doesnt take a whole lot more than a google image search to get reasonably detailed images of basically any cockpit

Still no 114K/R? I mean, cool but still …

I vote AGM-114L for all longbow apache

Eh. I’d prefer the Rs, mainly because the extra range would already give the helos enough of an advantage

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The F-16AJ proposal was made after Japan rejected the F-16J (basically a Block 10). This proposal was essentially just “let’s copy our prototype 1:1 because it happens to test the radar missiles Japan wants”. So it is identical to the YF-16A, but that was never developed for Japan.

But even then, the aircraft we have in game doesn’t just represent that. It is a fictional Block 10 (F-16J proposal), with two of the YF-16As experimental Sparrow hardpoints and the name of the F-16AJ.

I wonder what made them pick this over the F-14J, that Japan at least tested, and could’ve simply been copied over from the F-14A in game, preventing such a weird mix up. Then again I don’t want to give them any ideas like that, or they’ll end up skipping the F-2 completely for some obscure proposal…

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I feel like the F-14 would’ve been way more controversial due to it’s “exclusivity” in the US tech tree
There are a ton of nations who operate F-16s so giving one to Japan even though they never had one seems like the “lesser of two evils”

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The F-14 is a very popular fighter jet in Japan, so I’ve always thought about flying the F-14A (JP). JSADF also tests the AIM-54 using a simulator.

However, apart from the “Persian Cat”, the F-14 is one of the few aircraft that only the United States can use, so I think it was a rational choice to give Japan the F-16.
I have confirmed that there is a document in the NDL that appears to have been a comparison between the F-15 and F-14 by JSADF in 1975. I don’t think the F-14A(JP) will ever be implemented, but if that happens, please send me a mention and I’ll order it.

Well, aside from that, I think it would have been safer to implement the XF-2B (prototype No. 4) with limited missiles or the YF-16A (#72-1568) rather than preparing a paper plan.

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