Sons of Attila - Rumor Round-Up and Discussion (Part 2)

As I mentioned in the EJ topic, AAM-3 is a missile that supports both IR and UV bands.
This is a better guidance method compared to the AIM-9M and is more difficult to avoid with decoy flares than that one.
The data for the Python-4, the same generation as the AAM-3, is already available, and I actually saw a video of the missile firing in-game… well, it behaves in a really unpleasant way. It is too early to implement it in the current WarThunder.

However, if Python-4 is to be implemented this time, AAM-3 needs to be implemented at the same time.
Japan has no operational history of AIM-9M, and AJ is a fictional aircraft and cannot be equipped with AAM-3 here either. If the AAM-3 is given to the EJ Kai, which has been equipped with the AAM-3 in historical fact, the low performance of the aircraft and the strength of the missile will be balanced.
If the Israeli F-16C is given the Python-4, there should be no problem in giving the AAM-3 to the EJ Kai, which is inferior in performance. I know I am being persistent, but this is only if Python-4 is implemented.

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sadly yeah but gaijin already added a fake f16 to japan might aswell add it weaponry that never used like they’ve done before

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I wasn’t saying that Pakistani used vehicles shouldn’t be added to the Chinese tree. In fact, I believe that either North Korea or Pakistan should be added as a subtree to China.

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The British Phantoms were modified, and are thus British, not American. The F-16 in the Italian tree, for example, is American, however, due to it not being modified at all.

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The F-16AJ is a YF-16 Japan Demonstrator renamed.
It’s real, just renamed.

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yeah but the weaponry isnt real since it was never equipped with anything

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Yes, that is correct.
There is no doubt that once you have implemented a fictitious aircraft, you are in a position to do whatever you want.
The gear-door-pylon that was to be equipped in the real world is not equipped, and conversely, we have an AGM-65B that is not operated by JASDF.
Gaijin’s mood allows it to freely decide what equipment it will be equipped with, so I would not be surprised if anything happens.

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yeah i mean im applying gaijin double standards in this situation so lol aint no way gaijin can argue back against that without making another KF41 situation with the Japanese community

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That YF-16 was used to test the new radar [APG-66V1] and AIM-7s.
Which is why the radar in the F-16AJ is called APG-66V1 rather than APG-66J.
AGM-65 was part of the proposal as part of naval/ground defense.
Gaijin exclusively adds equipment to vehicles that have/can taken that equipment in real life.
There are no fictional loadouts in WT.

@UnHolySausage
There are no double standards.
And the weaponry being off the aircraft to demonstrate aeronautics isn’t the same as it not being able to carry those weapons.

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What you said here adds an interesting layer to the “historical/ahistorical weapons” discussion.
I’m used to “historical” weapons usually meaning something that was at least carried by an aircraft IRL, but proposed “historical” weaponry honestly does kinda make sense…

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Whether it is not a double standard is a bit of a question.
If the pamphlet is really to be implemented with the same performance, then the gear-door-pylon equipment should have been installed.
Also, if we use the “theoretically capable” criterion, does that mean that the JASDF can use weapons that are not actually in service?
For example, the F-4EJ is equivalent to the F-4E except that the CCRP and CCIP have been removed. (For some reason, it is equipped with CCIP/CCRP in the game. I am preparing a bug report on this.)
However, the JASDF does not use the AIM-7E(DF), so it cannot be equipped with it and is completely backward compatible. If the criterion is that it is theoretically possible to equip it with the same missiles as the U.S. F-4E.

I would like to know the criteria to what extent Gaijin allows weapons that can theoretically be equipped and to what extent it rejects them in favor of historicals…

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think they said they couldnt model the gear door pylons correctly, would be nice as it would make it different from the other F-16s ingame, alongside if it got loadouts it would/could have flown with if it was accepted in Japanese service

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I’d hope they haven’t given up on it and will add them in due time, assuming they don’t plan to remove the AJ from the tech tree eventually.

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Don’t know the f14a seams pretty Dead at this Point and I think giving it better Missiles and thereby increasing its br would make it way worse not better

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It was proven in a historical report that F-4EJ had CCIP & CCRP, and fixed due to that historical report.
Your historical report may not and probably won’t win, cause they already have the documents from the previous historical report that proved F-4EJ has CCIP & CCRP.

F-4EJ was indeed introduced without CCIP & probably no CCRP.

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Oh my god :’-(
Several documents deny that CCIP/CCRP equipment is installed, and Defense Agency officials have repeatedly denied this in discussions in the Japanese Diet…
Even the first two E(J) aircraft transported from Guam were so thoroughly equipped that the equipment was removed, so they were definitely not equipped. But the erroneous documentation that they were equipped with the equipment is being treated as historical.
I will try to submit a bug report with the correct information, knowing that Gaijin will not allow me to do so!
(If there is no CCIP/CCRP, I may be able to get EJ to lower the BR)
Thanks for letting me know :)

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I highly doubt removing ccip/ccrp will decrease the br so you will just get a worse f4ej than you already have

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dude called depth field:

I might expect after the last dev server of this major update gaijin add 3 camouflage buy with GE for Sea Harrier FRS.1 Early before up to live server

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