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There aren’t as many MiG-29’s that are playable, there are a ton of airframes that have Sparrows. Those sparrows are more effective than you describe, and can be carried, generally, in volumes higher than the R-27 (or equal to).
When the R-27’s are spent, there’s still a ton of sparrows out there. Sparrow vs. R60M right now is a joke, and vs R-73 it’s still not going to be that great either. So basically, you have to close the gap with someone, hoping to not catch a sparrow, and then hit them with a gimped missile, praying they don’t flare.
If that part of the engagement was 1v1, it wouldn’t be a big deal, in the merge, see who wins, whatever. Problem is, sparrows are doing fine in the airframes around you in the furball, they aren’t flared off, and the F-16 radar specifically is too good to lose track unless I hug the deck or get some terrain. So the bigger problem is the volume of overall midrange missiles being taken into the game, they’ll last longer, and they do better in how air RB plays out.
All the SMT radar and ER does is allow me to pop one of them from probably the same distance no more than ~40km, because the R-27 is easy to dodge from distance if you get low, and so firing farther away is pointless. If the radar helps guide the R-27 more accurately to the point that the R-27’s are guaranteed kills, then I don’t know what to say. I guess both my kills come from distance now? There’s still 10 other airframes out there, and they’ve closed the distance and all I have left is dogfight missiles in an airframe that will get out turned by the F-16’s easily. And they all have sparrows and 9L’s, which with an R-73 is basically fair.
I do think 9M’s are appropriate at this stage, but not enough people go full stealth and try to hit people with 23/24/27T’s. I don’t see the 27ET as much better, as a single flare still sets it off, and AIM-120 is not a fair missile to give in compromise as it’s ARH, and changes the meta too hard.
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And btw idk why everyone doesnt count phoenixes. They are threat not in the meaning “Far shot - far kill”, but in the meaning, that they brings opposing team to the ground (cause its easier to evade it here), so if there is no F-14 in both teams, one will have guaranteed height advantage.
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The gated FoV only makes it easier to exploit this bug. If you are defeating R-27T/ET or R-73 with a single pop of flare, it is not the missile is bad, it is whoever launched it don’t understand how missile works in this game.
I have to admit it’s easy to notch AIM-54A’s, but I’m finding it harder to do the same with the C’s since they are a little more advanced.
C’s are not any harder to notch, both phoenix behave the same except inertial guidance accuracy.
The biggest difference is F-14B can put much more energy into phoenix at launch, giving it more energy to hit you in terminal phase and less time for you to react.
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Anyone know if the DEV Server Bug Reports section is being monitored? There isn’t a single bug topic visible.
The Issue is its made and produced in India, they make their own ERA Comp armor and Ammo it may as well be Indian at this point
I think its because they are great at alt, but with everyone hugging the deck (average engagement height in SB at least is about 100ft) they are fairly useless. Most F-14Bs I see in SB just use Aim-7
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I just hope that Gaijin gives the Bhishma the Indian rounds like AMK-40(which uses a soft core material), DRDO developed 125mm Mk.2 APFSDS which from what I’ve read is a indigenous development roughly based on the Israeli CL-3254M(which in Indian service is AMK-40A) and with 3BM42 giv it the IA name of AMK-339
Here are my concerns from a non-US/USSR player and an ASB main
the amount of SARH is in my opinion slightly irrelevant, you can only fire 1 at a time (currently) Over the course of a match, yes its important, but in a 1v1 engagement, its irrelevant (most of the time, this is what its like in SB)
So quality becomes a bigger factor in a BVR joust. The Aim-7/SkyTrash might track better (so does the Tornado F3, my only BVR carrier at the moment) but the R-27ER are a lot faster. Meaning they can be fired later/closer and still win the joust if timed just right. More often than not though. Niether side wins because both are equally handicapped by Multipathing ( though from what I understand, they shouldnt be)
This means the fight goes WVR usually. This is where R-73s have the greatest advantage, with longer range, higher mobility and better flare resistance (this is providing you are in a platform that can turn at all)
R-27ETs have 1 major problem for me. There is no warning At least with a R-27ER imbound. I have my RWR screaming at me. R-73 I should know someone is about usually, if I dont, then R-60M would just work equally well as R-73. But ET? I’d have no idea. You can’t flare something you dont know is coming at you. You can also volley fire this in a joust. FIre off an R-27ET, then a R-27ER and maybe even follow it up with a R-73 at close range just to make damn sure. Better fire 2-3 missiles and secure the kill than risk missing in the merge (at least this is what im always forced to do with SkyTrash and 9L, increases my hit rate hugely)
Are Aim-9M required. I think this is really dependent on the airframe, slow/less agile, definetly, but if not, like the F-16, I actually think Aim-9/I would be suffecient.
AMRAAM… Now this is the question… Fox 3 does give an advantage, though at the same time you have warning one is imbound unlike R-27ET. But A/B Im just not sure they would be actually all that scary once people got use to them. But they would give less able jets the ability to fire and run away earlier whilst the Mig-29 is defending. This quite literally was the IRL tactic of the F3.
So again, i think its down to the airframe and not necessarily a hard counter for everything. It would also open up options for other aircraft to be added which i think is more important than anything else. Adding AMRAAM would mean Gripen, SHar FA2, F3 might get some love, and a few other nations here or there. But they would eventually at least, need more of a universal roll out, but im Sure R-77 would either be at the same time or shortly afterwards. So…
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how is Sweden, France and Britain gonna compete in top tier for the next couple months? Viggen, Mirage 2000-5F and a Tornado just isnt gonna cut it by far anymore. and Smin saying that the R-73 wasnt gonna come to the MiG-29 a month ago was a bloody lie.
also. do russia really need another bloody MiG-29 when Britain is still using a Tornado that is like, never seen in air RB matches.
Sweden still with the JA37D Viggen, while decent will be completly irrelevant the next update. its few strengths will be completly gone by this new MiG.
and France’s Mirage 2000 just isnt a viable fighter at all.
so i gotta ask.
Ja37D with IR-OTIS HMD when?
or Aim-120 for Viggen we have?
or better yet, JAS 39 Gripen when?
and im sure Britain and France has good options too but im not to knowledgeable about them so i’ll leave that to those that do know.
Best Guess Gripen and Sea Harrier FA2 / Tornado F3 CSP upgrade (adds AMRAAM) when AMRAAM are released, if/when ever that is. I’d assume it was this update, but looking likely the next (unless they surprise everyone this update)
France I have no idea
(As a Britain main, it really sucks at the moment)
Mirage 2000 is a meta airframe as good as Mig-29 9.12 & F-16, and will always compete, especially as it gets IRCCM on its soon to be 4 Magic 2s, and MICA RFs when 12.7ish comes.
Smin never lied, so stop lying about staff.
The Mig-29SMT is a worse airframe to the Mig-29s currently in-game.
Gripen is coming.
The fact you claim Mig-29, F-16, & Mirage 2000 aren’t viable fighters after claiming they were is annoying.
@Morvran
France already has a meta fighter, just needs weapons fixed which are being worked on as we speak.
ye. this will be a T-2 update when russia will fight against russia. everyone else is gonan struggle.
Fair enough… Though its a multi-role. Maybe they could do with a dedicated A2A version? 2x IR 2x BVR right?
That is the lowest count in the game top tier right now and maybe they could do with another addition
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Sea Harrier FRS1 FINALLY being finished, means I plan to spend hte next couple of months hiding at 10.7. Slapping Su-25 bots and other various things like that out hte sky. Instead of even trying to deal with the mess that 11.3-12.3 is looking like at the moment
Would be the same airframe, and same meta.
@Antezscar
Thanks for proving me correct & admitting you lied about Smin.
Unless… It stay on the dev server again… always possible