MiG-23, ML, and MLD are all survivable in top tier if you are vigilant and know how to win. Some of the most fun I’ve had in Air Battles.
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The Aim54? Just because the Aim54 exist in WT and is of a technology not available to nations does not mean it needs to be countered. I am sorry, are you having a hard time avoiding Aim54s?
You either do not play Air RB or disingenuously attempting to ignore the fact that the Mig29 SMT is not only scheduled to receive the R73, R27ET & R27ER but also an upgraded radar to support it. Which is already modelled.
These are missiles are well beyond anything the west has to offer at top tier. The only thing previously holding balance in regard to the Mig29s was the inferior radar and R60s. That is no longer an issue.
The Mig29 SMT is the best fighter for immediate close quarters engagement. The R73 can immediately pull the lead in the shortest head on engagements. under 2km in a supersonic head on can the R73 still connect to its target. The Python 3 or the PL-8 is not capable either.
The Mig29 SMT is also the best fighter in any medium range radar and IR engagements. It already has the R27ER which is by far the fastest long-range missile in game capable of hypersonic speeds at high altitude. No missile can reach out as fast and precise as the R27 E models. The Mig29 has the best standoff capability in game. There is only one missile capable of being launched 5 seconds after an opponent already launched his and still destroy him before his ever reaches you. That is the R27ER & ET
The SMT is receiving a better radar with narrow ACM like radar modes. Time to acquire targets is cut in half. No fighter will be able to put a lock on someone and get a SARH on them as fast as the Mig29 SMT.
The SMT will also be given the R27ET. It can now remain completely undetected miles outside render range and send a missile that covers the ground faster than any other IR missile to target.
What does the F16C get?
An IR HMD? and some thrust? Thrust that is offset by the weight of the C models airframe?
The Early F-4 (F-110A, F-4B, F-4C[until replaced by the AN/APR-25 antenna within the nose fairing]) used the AN/AAA-4 IRST, the F-101B (late), F-102, F-106 & F-8E use the AN/AAS-15. The F-4E also had the AN/ASX-1 TISEO, the F-14 had the AN/ALR-23, AN/AXX-1 or AN/AAS-42.
None of those systems are late 90’s vintage. But mid 50’s~70’s
Yes that’s what it did, but it was to either cue the radar, or use the radar to provide the range while angle tracking was maintained by the IRST / EOTS system. and as seen in the excerpt Weapons capability was retained.
The F-14 had the option baked into it from the outset as can be seen from various documents that refer to it
It was dropped for the F-15 / F-16 due to cost issues, and developmental delays; one of the planned addtions for the A-16 program (the option was never exercised but some features were rolled into the Block 40/42 airframes) was the addition of the Viper Eye.
The planned system for the F-15 was called the ATAR. Also some Targeting pods do have A2A Search & Track modes.
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I know that prototypes is kind of lame, but i’m just saying it is an option.
To me, i’d much perfer we see CF-18 or Australian F-18s bridge the gap between Tornado with AMRAAMs and Eurofighter Typhoon.
Throw in South African Mirage IIIs for more fighters for Britain, Sea Harrier FA.2 for naval fighter line, stuff like that. It would feel right as all those nations are featured in the tree already and it wouldn’t feel weird having 10 of the same, single Prototype in a match
It’s really only some 11.0s that suffer, namely the F-4Es.
Mig-21Bis I’d flight out if it was spaded, cause F-16s & Mig-29s make for great R-60M food.
So would the ICE be missile food
Britain does not need Mirage III…
And if Gripen and AIM-120 are as close as it seems Tornado F.3 will mostly be a gimmick, since Eurofighter will be rather close then.
That goes for russian rank 7 gound too.
AIM-7 spam means that in a full game, not a 1 on 1, the R-27 isn’t that great. If this was the Su-27 getting ER’s and R-73’s this update, you’d be 100% spot on.
I’m sorry but 2 R-27’s are not as OP as you say. They’re great, but they’re limited. Without R-73’s, you go from some good stand-off options, to having gimpy R-60’s which just don’t cut it.
Radar just brings parity. Again, part of the problem with the SMT is that we literally get Yak-141 (no one plays it), MiG-29, MiG-29SMT, and MiG-23MLD. That’s the top 4. Versus F-16 (x2), F-14(x2), and now F-16C. We have no F-14 missile bus to keep up with everyone throwing sparrows.
Nah, the reason F-4Es don’t do well is cause the counter-attack is extremely difficult.
Whereas F-4Js have many options of counter-attack, with EJ Kai having the most despite it not having agile eagle.
F-4s have enough defenses to take on early AMRAAMs, and IR missiles at least up to Python 4, 9M, AAM3 & 5, etc.
F-4s aren’t lacking in defense.
30 flares & 60 chaff when the countermeasure system is fixed.
Only thing a player needs to do in a SMT is to run a way from the Ice that is it will be like an F 104 vs a sabre
Solid post. I appreciate the brief history. Basically the IRST concept has been toyed with, the Soviets mass produced it the way it’s utilized now, and the West while capable, has only really caught up in the mass deployment of it in things like the F-35, Typhoon, and Rafale. Fair summary?
Good luck running from a 9L or AMRAAM.
Jesus your not getting it
The Phantom is a bad airframe at 12.0 and above
Can wait to have the Polish tree with the F-16 and the Mig 29
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What is Aim-7 spam? You can only fire one sparrow at a time at a target and must babysit the missile with radar support the whole way.
So does the R27ER?
Yes, just like the sparrow, one must babysit the missile with radar support all the way to target. The difference is the R27ER is borderline hypersonic, where the sparrow is not and very slow. The time in which a player has to babysit the missile is far less. Leaving himself less exposed and allowing more situational awareness toward other threats.
Now there is the ET which is a missile that requires no radar support but still has the performance of the R27ER.
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I’m talking about almost every air frame having them, starting before top tier, some planes like F-4 and F-14 having 4 or more of them, and everyone shooting them on the way to the furball.
Yes it requires some guidance being an SARH.
ET is a joke. It’s IR, not SARH. All it’s going to do is go really fast into a flare. ET =/= ER at all
I do not see how that matters. Players can shoot one SARH at a time.
You are not facing any more sparrows on average than those players face R27s and (Don’t forget) R23s & R24s which are faster and more reliable as well than the sparrows.
Again, the sparrow success rate is poorer than the R27 and R24 and their speed is far inferior as well.
The Mig29 SMT will receive a better radar and IRST further increasing the deadliness of the R27ER & ET.
I am not advocating in taking a single thing from the Mig29SMT. Just that this new F16C get some comparable offensive capability. That’s a fair request, right?
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Stupid question but is the part 1 post 1 updated when new thingscome out/new update? It looks like it was originally posted in 2019?