Tbh I will start to grind the German tech tree again as I’m up to the last mig 21. So that when folded it will be halved.
So can’t wait for the RP changes after that. It’s a shame it’s taking so long but I hope it will be in the next major update.
i am worried a bit about all the vehicles they wanna raise their tier, as a result the rp of those rises as well and a lot of those arent foldered into sth, very likely the overall necesary rp of a tech tree goes down, but i think that tier change for some vehicles wasnt necesary
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I mean there has always been favoritism among the trees, USA gets priority on aircraft and Germany and Russia always got preferential treatment for tanks, I imagine the same holds true for other trees, Japan likely got a focus on air and then navy when that came out, Sweden doesn’t even have a navy and their air tree has always been limited so they get preferential treatment on the ground to make up, Italy was the laughing stock of WWII and didn’t do much better after so it pretty rightfully doesn’t get much anywhere, Israel on the other hand seems to get everything all at once and then nothing for ages, that’s why their ground tree is just Magachs, however their air tree is decent and only stands to get better from now on, with Israeli F-15s, F-16s, and F-35s all being marginally better than their US counterparts.
That would be nice for me, I play different nations but Italy remains my favorite one, it’s probably a similar feeling to the one of football fans with their favorite team. That’s really sad for me that many players don’t even try Italy, I hope subtree will attract new players and people who stopped to play it because of a lack of setups or some other problems.
we talking about the same germany here? <.<
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Pre 2020 they did xD
i dont think that example is still valid in that case then xD
Fair enough, though I’m sure part of it is that Germany is one of the original nations and like Japan, doesn’t have all that much left to be added, I’m sure sub trees are coming it’s just it looks kinda bad adding a 6th tree to Germany when other nations are still on 3 or 4
ehhh, that is the thing germany still has quite a lot to be added in ground, multitude of light,mbts, dozens of old russian stuffs, honestly for ground germany is in aboslutely no need for sub trees, honestly just vanity and jokes that it should get sub tree stuff (polish K2 Black panther is my wish to gather all panthers in one tree). But it is just sad that even with those many additons top tier of germany got neglected like this
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“Germany and Russia always got preferential treatment for tanks”
ok dude, this is over, you win.
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People seem to be constantly arguing about Sweden tree here
Are you trying to imply that Germany on its own doesn’t have a great variety of vehicles for all modes?
Please, that’s laughable.
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No, you’re implying that by arguing that Swiss shouldn’t be added BECAUSE of your subjective reason.
I’m saying Swiss should be added to Germany because it’s better than them not being in the game at all, and Germany makes sense.
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As if saying that “they make sense for Germany” isn’t subjective itself.
Frankly, I think adding Switzerland to Germany makes next to no sense.
Switzerland has been an independent and neutral entity for the whole time period that is relevant to War Thunder.
Switzerland also had a domestic air and ground industry, which would be able to get added to the game by the standards we have seen in already present nations.
Switzerland has a linguistic connection to Germany, but also has one to France and Italy. Even if you were to argue that it should go into another nation rather than not being added at all, then saying it should be added to Germany is about the least sensible when compared to the needs of France or Italy (though France could easily sustain itself too and Italy has more sensible sub-tree options than Switzerland.
Switzerland may have bought some equipment from Germany, but they also bought equipment from France, UK and USA, so this isn’t a great argument for adding them to Germany either.
These are some reasons I say that you aren’t right to assume that adding them to Germany is the objectively sensible option rather than them being an opinion of your own, especially after we consider the backlash Gaijin received for adding the Swiss Hunter to Germany.
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So you’d rather have no Swiss vehicles in the game because you’re afraid it’ll make Germany look weak.
Honest sounds like you love Germany a bit too much.
War Thunder is a video game, a fiction.
The German tech tree in WT does not represent real-life Germany.
This is about simulating war games.
With that said, there was no real backlash for Swiss Hunter going to Germany. There was a murmur from upset Brits thinking they’d never get a flare equipped Hunter for Britain even tho there are options that aren’t Swiss.
Lmao what
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You misunderstand why I disagree with Switzerland going to Germany.
It is not because I love Germany (it is actually one of my least favorite nations in the game).
Rather, it is because I am very interested in the Swiss military and would love to play as them independently. I would be quite sad to see potential vehicles that would be able to bolster a potential Swiss tree go into another tree, no matter which one, because I am an avid supporter of a Swiss one.
These feelings also extend to Czechoslovakia, Poland (or V4 if those two are paired together) and Yugoslavia.
And yes, War Thunder is a video game, it doesn’t have to be realistic. With that in mind, why not add stuff from nations that cannot support their own tree but fit in Germany? Chilean Leopard 2CHL or the Greek Leopard 2 ASPIS are perfect examples. Perhaps even the Argentinian Pulqui II, which is based on German WW2 jet blueprints.
Why not add those over Swiss stuff, which would by all accounts be a waste with these alternatives being very available. Germany is a great weapons exporter after all, they have plenty other options.
And I’d say that backlash isn’t a wrong way to describe the Swiss Hunter situation. Look at the comment section on that things devblog and you will find overwhelming negativity.
Sure, it’s more because it would’ve fit better in the British tree rather than people being upset that Switzerland wasn’t getting things kept for itself, but it comes to show that in the eyes of many it still wouldn’t make sense to “add Switzerland to Germany” as these kinds of things are implied with such statement.
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Plus with the proof of Sweden we can now have counties with mostly 5 planes per rank.
So the Swiss can defo be a country of it want to be
Well Swiss can’t come independent, there isn’t enough vehicles.
& suggesting them be independent means you suggest they shouldn’t be added because it is clear there’s not enough.
Just as SK cannot be added independent.