I see, unlikely Gaijin will add anything WWII related though. This goes for all nations too.
Nope. It has nothing to do with gatekeeping. You can ask anyone who’s ever played a nation victimized by copy slopping. 10 times outta 10 they woulda preferred a unique vehicle be added instead of copy slopping.
Yes, I agree with those being removed.
If you mean from the Japan tree then sure
Even thought that a fact but still unrelated to the topic we discussed about.
So maybe try elaborate what so “unique” about China and Israel🤦♂️
SInce when? All China aircraft in game right now are more or less copy and paste from USSR, what they do is just renamed it.
Then you will find those nation you consider as “unique” will get cancelled while Japan remained unharm
Ro’em
They get unique missiles. 9.3 - 10.3 will sadly still be copy pasted, but it would be better than what we have now.
Or just remove copy paste and add unique vehicles that are worth grinding for.
LOL, I thought I read it mistaken but seem like you really thing a howitzer on a Sherman chasis more “unique” than those self design Japanese tanks🤦♂️
You know most of those “unique” missile is just a rename version of R-60 and Magic series right?
How many times I gonna repeat? You can’t remove them because they didn’t got that much of self design vehicle. If remove them all Israel will lose whole Magach line and most of the other vehicle in other line; China also suffered as they will had to kiss goodbye to the WW2 era, the ROC line and large number of PRC vehicle while those vehicle you said “worth grinding” is not enough to fill the gap those copy and paste vehicle made, at the end you will find the “less unique” Japan only get minor affect by removing some ground vehicle and some modern jets
Strange, I saw quite a lot of Commonwealth players praying about their vehicles to ours.
10 outta 10? really mate…?
Yes, if there are ‘unique vehicles remaining to be added which are worth playing’ and ‘lame copy-pasted vehicles’, there might be a chance of preferring unique ones.
But in the other way around, players will prefer ‘trustworthy american built warhorse’ compared to ‘untrustworty unique vehicle which is overtiered, outgunned, or off-meta’.
Ooohhh… you’ve grown up from last time we discussed… handclap
You bite the bullet. nice job.
What the hell are you talking about? Stingray was built by the US but never bought by Congress in the final selection.
You think that is an American vehicle because an American company built it, even though US Army didn’t operate it.
But the operator company shouldn’t get it because copy-paste is bad?
Keep your damn hands off her, Biff.
furthermore lets also add China to Japan too /s
Is ridiculous that T-1 still hasn’t be added into the game at this point, Gaijin really could just milk the players by putting the A variant in the tech tree and the B as a premium, or even better since they love so much the time that copypaste saves you, why not just add the T-33?? It can go in like 3 nations in game
Also you guys are really arguing with one of the guys whose comments seem like genuinely bait? Just ignore it life keeps going
Honestly, something tells me that by the end of the year Japan won’t get any native vehicles apart from ships. We’ll probably get 90% C&P from subtrees and 10% special stuff.
If someone throws rubbish on the street, someone else needs to pick it up and throw it into a bin.
If noone does, the street will be shitehole.
Also, arguing with him is fun, like playing tug-of-war with a squeaky toy.
Like people want to get the yamato after seeing it in its current state.
I’m only here waiting for F15JSI and f2 super kai. I’m dipping after that to another nation. Probably USA or UK or Italy.
I’d say context matters.
Some is just unnecessary, to the point where it’s historically wrong. So for example instead of giving the US the Thai operated Stingray, they could’ve gotten the Cadillac Gage prototype Stingray. Or instead of giving Thailand the US M163, they could’ve gotten a variant that Thailand actually operated.
But others generally make sense. Some vehicles are just operated by different nations, and that’s perfectly fine. These vehicles are still significant to their nations and serve to make national lineups and represent parts of history. The fact that these vehicles are exported is what is driving the military industry of the nation that develops them, so them being spread around is just the price to pay for generally having more developments.
That said I’d still say they shouldn’t be prioritized when deciding what to add. Instead I’d say the more unique options would be more important. For example instead of the unmodified Thai M163 (even if it was the right M163A1 model), they could’ve added the modified M163A1 TVADS instead.
Some copies can also be “skipped” by giving them a unique modification as an actual researchable modification option. For example the Thai M60A3 TTS could’ve been made more interesting with researchable WERA (wooden add-on armor).
Also suggestions like these should be implemented.
Yeah! Would love to see it some time soon. Especially with Rank IX coming in introducing more C&P.
Clarification: he wants to remove Stingray from Thai and make it a US Exclusive because copy-paste is bad.
Even though Congress didn’t buy Stingray, and it was not on US Service.
Because nothing but it is US Built vehicle.
Wooden ERA seems like a really cool addition.
Yeah, that’d be a bit weird considering it was an entirely private Cadillac Gage project aimed primarily at export. I understand the Stingray prototypes, despite them not being trialed by the US at all, since it’s at least an American company, but not the Thai service configuration.
Sadly not real ERA, just a funny name for the armor made for the suggestion. But it’s still an interesting add-on with good side coverage made from holy wood.
Doesn’t exist yet. Will probably never come to the game at this rate.
Doesn’t exist, only existed on paper. Move on from the tree if the only thing you’re waiting for is an ongoing upgrade in its very early stages and a paper variant. Most we’ll get in the future with the F-2 is an F-2 Early (possibly 9Ls, but otherwise identical to ADTW) and an F-2 Late (AAM-5, maybe tested HMD)
I will wait for this, F2 is one of my favorite planes. Imagine HMD and AAM5 and AAM4B. Insnae.
Both the SI and Kai are still possible, I have a feeling that Gaijin won’t make top tier in Japan not Japanese.
Sadly I don’t think we will see those anytime soon, F-15JSI is still not real and F-2 Super Kai was only a proposal that lost out to the F-35.
But if you want a Japanese aircraft to look forward too, there might be a chance for a unique 5th gen once the game gets to that point. Not only was there a lot of components to it made (also a flying demonstrator, but that’s technically a different aircraft), but there’s also a surprising amount of detail on it especially compared to other 5th gen aircraft.
The JSI maybe, depends how much the Japanese MoD reveals.
The Kai was an idea, never tested and never reached past the talking stage. Its just as real as the Tiger II 10.5cm
Interesting, first time hearing of this prototype. Once USA gets the f22 raptor, I can see Japan maybe getting this and Korea getting the kf21 similarly. The game would be stale with just F22, su57, j20.