Everybody knows this. Air RB at top tier with uptiered plane that is stock is basically death sentence and it makes grinding horrendous. We also know that it is intentional from Gaijin, since they are very greedy and dont really care about their players.
The question is, is there any solution to this? Would Air RB EC solve this? It would definitely help with the terrible pacing where the game is over in 3 minutes so you cannot even play smart, you can just rush and die like everybody else, but would that be the enough to solve the issue?
If we are getting 5th gens this year, is Gaijin gonna change the mode, or are they actually letting us play with 5th gens in that bullshit shithole of airRB?
I think we should get some uneven battle modes, like one team is attacking the powerplant or whatever, and the other is defending. Or one team escorting the bombers and enemies are attacking. Just something to make it more interesting than going into knife fight which has nothing to do with real planes. It works in other games, it could work in War thunder.
What do you think?
“We know this because of speculation made by myself.” So no evidence.
First off, compression to frustration is not intended. They play the game just as we do, they just have less hours to play the game because they also have to develop the game.
That means they’re likely not going to find even a substantial minority of compression issues.
2.7 ground has been compressed since ground was introduced, and especially when Pz 4s were moved from 4.3 to 3.7.
Now, for the stuff I agree with.
Air RB EC would be nice. War Thunder needs a new AI so we can have full matches even if there aren’t enough players to fill the slots.
However, this would also mean the anti-exploit measures of sim EC would exist as well, including when you J out no one gets credit for the frag. Cause hundreds to thousands of people sat next to enemy runways as alt-accounts and friends took off and J’d out for free rewards.
As for the final point I’ll address, 5th gens do not add the powercreep you think they do. Allegedly we’re getting next-gen IR missiles, and most likely a flare rework, and that’s it.
We’re still going to be using conventional radar missiles whose range at current in-game altitudes is 15 - 40km, cause no one’s going to climb to 12,000 meters on each side and one launch on the other.
New AI to allow for AI to no longer use their own proprietary “AI flight model”, and use the weapons of all aircraft… that’s needed. At least the AAMs and dumb bombs.
As well as adaptive to environments.
Also being simpler to code would make more ground tasks available.
What I want to see is up to 24x24 sim matches, where AI fills slots that players don’t.
And we’ve been seeing the results of much of their AI development thankfully, and here’s hoping they can make the air AI as good as it needs to be and exceed that as well.
While I don’t play top tier jets, I occasionally try to fly out my korean birds and EC does nothing to make them more playable. In fact, if anything, the rotating & fixed BR brackets make it far more frustrating to play after you go above prop BRs.
At Prop BRs, Sim EC is a pretty fun game mode despite its flaws.
At korean jets? Pain.
Above korean jets? The few times I gave my F8U a try, it was even more pain and that was in an overpowered plane.
SB EC as is works mostly because it’s SB with SB limitations.
The evidence is, that it is free to play game and this model in well known - Frustrate players into spending money. The problem is, Im not F2P player, I have premium account and I buy premiums here and there, mostly during sales. Yet Im frustrated even though I pay them. I believe the biggest reason why Gaijin keeps the +1-1 BR matchmaking system is to frustrate stock players in an uptier.
RB EC, i don’t really think it would help… though i want it as a game mode anyway.
For jets you need markerless RB (like SEAD event) . For many reasons. And creates possibilities for other things to enrich gameplay if you want to.
Though, you can combine it with EC … but i believe EC in general will become a campfest/grindfest and nothing else.
So in mind the only thing i could see to be a ^today^ solution is markerless RB. And it will solve the majority of 9,3 and above tiers’ problems.
The problem, however, in all the game is called GJ and they clearly incapable to create any kind of good gameplay/maps…
I’m waiting for them 12 years to see a fix in gameplay, and i’m convinced it’s not that they don’t want to (they ^tried to do something here and there^) , they are just not capable of doing it.
You need some fantasy , ideas maybe read some books how battles were fought…try recreate some patterns…
They have the tools… they are just incapable in that department.
Yeah, ARB EC would be fantastic. Especially if it added on top of the version that is currently available to sim players. Think of things like:
Multiple airfield spawn points
A dynamic and moving border
Summonable AI AWACS with spawn points
Summonable AI Aerial refueling with spawn points
Multiple type of targets objectives
Convoys
Ships
SAM sites
Radar installations
Detailed military bases with multiple bombing targets
Precision bombing on strategic targets so AI tanks can take over a city
If there is one thing I have learned about Gaijin in my 12 years of War Thunder however, it is that the lads in that company will always think they know better. Unfortunately (and I truly mean unfortunately) it is a matter of pride and arrogance. Maybe it is a cultural thing in Hungary/Russia where most of them are located.
They frequently lock threads with constructive feedback or justified criticism. They ignore bug reports they do not want to deal with. They refuse to balance the matchmaker or innovate on gamemodes. And while doing all of that they will give the most questionable excuses as to why.
I am very curious to see what they will do with the game when they run out of vehicles to add. It would be a shame if the game went stale and dies out. Because you have to give them praise for one thing: they came up with a killer game concept.
Alas, I don’t have much fate in the company or the people over at Gaijin I have had the pleasure of dealing with so far. Maybe we will get some proper competition someday. Or maybe they will be acquired by someone else. I do hope someday they will grow the guts to innovate.
LMAO, tell that the SU33 fighting a Typhoon, the F4S fighting the SU33, the MIG-23M fighting the F4S…
I can continue this line down to 1.0 if you will. These aren’t even the worst contenders for “should never see most planes it faces in a 1.0 uptier”, I think attackers are literally just overtiered because gaijin thinks “bomber bad”.
Nothing is going to change, enjoy your untrackable F-22 spamming AIM 9X and AIM 120Cs while you are literally unable to fight them. Until a year later, where you will have the Su-57, which will be nerfed into the ground (just like the Su-30), the J-20 (which Gaijin will make useless, just like the rest of China), and the F-35 (every country will have it).
