So, when are we getting some BR decompression?

First and foremost, I’m an air player through and through. The only time I touch ground is when I’m taking off, landing, or doing a forced and unscheduled pyrotechnical disassembly. I don’t have any experience regarding ground forces past Tier I, but I am fairly certain that the ground players can likely relate to this in some manner.

We’ve all had it. Getting into a game with your just-wheeled-out-of-the-factory-brand-spanking-new in your… say 10.3 jet or tank. You get into match and you see some names of vehicles you’ve only heard of before, but never seen in game. And in the first few seconds of the engagement (or maybe before you even enter the engagement), you’re immediately destroyed because of the superiority of an 11.3’s vehicle’s weaponry. Then the next match, you’re in a full downtier to 9.3, slamming those plebes with your technologically superior weaponry.

With the most recent update “Air Superiority”, the wise masters of Gaijin have added in newer fourth generation fighters with loadouts involving the newest and most up to date weaponry. And you’d expect that, similar to the release of the F-16C/D and MiG-29SMT in “Kings of Battle” which upped the max Air RB BR to 12.3, the addition of the F-15A/J, Su-27S, and JAS-39A/C would increase the max BR again, right? Maybe to 12.7, maybe 13.0?

Wrong. The max BR remains still at 12.3 for air RB. A JAS-39A/C with 6 AIM-9M/RB-74(M) and 720 countermeasures can decide that he wants to dance around your 11.3 that you earned and was working on spading (or bought) and there’s nothing you can do about it unless they’re caught off guard in a really bad place. Because the JAS-39A/C, with it’s UFO flight model and countermeasures that allows the pilot to dogfight a quarter to half of the red team at once, is at a BR where an aircraft where an F-4 or MiG-23 can do nothing but pray for an inadequate pilot.

Nor is the Su-27S, with the capability of loading 6 of the strongest performing SARHs (R-27ER) in the game along with 4 of the most oppressive short range IRs (R-73, bar the Magic 2) or longest range IRs (R-27ET) in the game at 13.0, right along side it. No, instead these beasts of aviation are at 12.3.

At any point in time when you’re poked into an uptier you face drastically improved technology that outclasses your own in every way in most cases. One such instance is any of the jets in the 9.0-10.3 bracket that get access to no flares (unless they want to weigh down their aircraft with rockets) yet face aircraft such as the A-10A(Early/Late) or Su-25(K) which have 2 (or 4, in the A-10A(Late)'s case) 30g all aspect missiles? Yes, the missiles are for self defense; but once a lumberthing Thunderbolt II or transonic Frogfoot get into the middle of the battlefield, you think they’re going to use those free kill missiles for self defense? No, they’re clicking on any enemy they see and getting easy kills because they don’t have flares. There is no reason for transonic aircraft introduced in the 1950s to face 1980s attack aircraft with all aspect missiles. Or having F-5A/C/E’s duke it out with MiG-23M(L/LD/LA)s.

Fix the BR compression before you add any new some fangle-dangled weaponry like Fox 3s (which will, invariably, be Russian dominated) in the next major update. Up the max BR to 14, 15, however high it needs to be to ensure that the little guys in downtiers aren’t getting utterly decimated. At the very least, decrease the max up/downtier from 1.0 BR change to 0.6/0.7 BR change.

Went off into a bit of a rant, sorry. Just decompress the dang BRs. Pad out the BRs. Any player who has spent any time in the 9.0-11.3 BR bracket can tell you it is agony to play in an uptier, being outperformed on every metric by every aircraft (bar attackers, sometimes) and like kicking kids with steel toed boots in a downtier.

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Before anybody says “Skill Issue” or “Git Gud”… I have the AIM-9M, AAM-3, R-73; AIM-7M, R-27ER. They’re all very oppressive missiles with terrific radars (most of the time, ignoring the F-15 with it’s terrible chaff rejection even with the SRC PD HDN mode), and the fact that they can be used against aircraft such as an F-4J/S, MiG-23ML/D/A, Mirage F1C/T/-200, or any other 11.3/11.7 aircraft is utterly disgusting.

It takes an ungodly amount of flares to properly flare off an AIM-9M or R-73 (unless you flare right before a missile launch), one that aircraft of that BR don’t have (with the F1C being an exception). So unless you’re a flare god, you’ll be eating that Sidewinder or Archer real soon.

bro i think more than skill issue, i would take issue with your username lol.
but in all seriousness, gaijins reluctance to increase the BR to 13.0 is undefendable. if its a backend code implementation they fear working on ill do it happily and for free.

I respect people who think food is in infinitely regenerating resource that comes from grocery stores more than Gaijin’s balance team.

I agree with him I’m trying to grind out because I don’t have time to spend the money or time earning sl or paying for ge I’m not poor it just not worth it say you but the au-25 to grind out Russia high tier you stil have to go against 12.3 in up tiers and pray you get a down tier that’s a waste of money to then have to stock grind the plane as well the amount of times you die just because someone’s crew is aced and your not don’t mean put me in a 10.0 when I’m in a lim 5-p with no flares no missiles I have to farm ground and just ask and wait kindly to get murderd that’s 9 in ten games I honestly don’t know how gajin can go home at the end of day at work and be like ye I’ve done something today besides making people slave away at the game or pay grands to just have everything done for them I’m not one to say I haven’t spent money on the game but you have to not to get a cool tank or prop or jet because if it’s not some sort of metta it’s not worth it so why again would I pay money for that and I’m honestly shocked that ppl ain’t upset that they have made everything half price a couple days before Christmas when 99% will be doing something so sure get ppl to leave away at the game because you overpriced everything n messed up br completely and can’t manage to fix the weapon gyroscope / radar irst lock would really help in a 10 but it don’t work on any of the 9.0 jets that have it what a joke

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First and foremost, I’m an air player through and through. The only time I touch ground is when I’m taking off, landing, or doing a forced and unscheduled pyrotechnical disassembly. I don’t have any experience regarding ground forces past Tier I, but I am fairly certain that the ground players can likely relate to this in some manner.

We’ve all had it. Getting into a game with your just-wheeled-out-of-the-factory-brand-spanking-new in your… say 10.3 jet or tank. You get into match and you see some names of vehicles you’ve only heard of before, but never seen in game. And in the first few seconds of the engagement (or maybe before you even enter the engagement), you’re immediately destroyed because of the superiority of an 11.3’s vehicle’s weaponry. Then the next match, you’re in a full downtier to 9.3, slamming those plebes with your technologically superior weaponry.

With the most recent update “Air Superiority”, the wise masters of Gaijin have added in newer fourth generation fighters with loadouts involving the newest and most up to date weaponry. And you’d expect that, similar to the release of the F-16C/D and MiG-29SMT in “Kings of Battle” which upped the max Air RB BR to 12.3, the addition of the F-15A/J, Su-27S, and JAS-39A/C would increase the max BR again, right? Maybe to 12.7, maybe 13.0?

Wrong. The max BR remains still at 12.3 for air RB. A JAS-39A/C with 6 AIM-9M/RB-74(M) and 720 countermeasures can decide that he wants to dance around your 11.3 that you earned and was working on spading (or bought) and there’s nothing you can do about it unless they’re caught off guard in a really bad place. Because the JAS-39A/C, with it’s UFO flight model and countermeasures that allows the pilot to dogfight a quarter to half of the red team at once, is at a BR where an aircraft where an F-4 or MiG-23 can do nothing but pray for an inadequate pilot.

Nor is the Su-27S, with the capability of loading 6 of the strongest performing SARHs (R-27ER) in the game along with 4 of the most oppressive short range IRs (R-73, bar the Magic 2) or longest range IRs (R-27ET) in the game at 13.0, right along side it. No, instead these beasts of aviation are at 12.3.

At any point in time when you’re poked into an uptier you face drastically improved technology that outclasses your own in every way in most cases. One such instance is any of the jets in the 9.0-10.3 bracket that get access to no flares (unless they want to weigh down their aircraft with rockets) yet face aircraft such as the A-10A(Early/Late) or Su-25(K) which have 2 (or 4, in the A-10A(Late)'s case) 30g all aspect missiles? Yes, the missiles are for self defense; but once a lumberthing Thunderbolt II or transonic Frogfoot get into the middle of the battlefield, you think they’re going to use those free kill missiles for self defense? No, they’re clicking on any enemy they see and getting easy kills because they don’t have flares. There is no reason for transonic aircraft introduced in the 1950s to face 1980s attack aircraft with all aspect missiles. Or having F-5A/C/E’s duke it out with MiG-23M(L/LD/LA)s.

Fix the BR compression before you add any new some fangle-dangled weaponry like Fox 3s (which will, invariably, be Russian dominated) in the next major update. Up the max BR to 14, 15, however high it needs to be to ensure that the little guys in downtiers aren’t getting utterly decimated. At the very least, decrease the max up/downtier from 1.0 BR change to 0.6/0.7 BR change.

Went off into a bit of a rant, sorry. Just decompress the dang BRs. Pad out the BRs. Any player who has spent any time in the 9.0-11.3 BR bracket can tell you it is agony to play in an uptier, being outperformed on every metric by every aircraft (bar attackers, sometimes) and like kicking kids with steel toed boots in a downtier.
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I mean I can try and understand why they do what they do but some decisions, even when considering that they may not have the resources or the attention towards particular aspects of the game, can be hard to grasp.

I miss the 9.0BR meta every time they compress Jet RB