So, what the actual hell is the reasoning behind the Ozelot going up?

I would genuinely would like to know in what universe the Ozelot deserves to be .3 br below the LAV AD, which bit only has Stingers, but has a gun and Hydra rockets. The Ozelot which only has one of these things.

Let’s see the advantage of the Ozelot over the LAV AD.



Has 8 Stingerw compared to the LAV’s 4.


Literally worse in every way to the LAV AD. No gun, no anti tank capability, no anti tanks rockets or anything else. Yet, it sits at .3 br below the LAV AD.

Hell, if anything this thing should have gone DOWN with the Gepard 1A2 which id not worthy of 9.7 at all.

These br changes are horrible. Did they help WW2? Yea. Do they royally f*** up every other goddamn br higher than 6.7? Also, YES!`

Revert the changes to the Ozelot. It isn’t, and hasn’t ever been worth if 9.7. It was barely worthy of 9.3. Move it, and the other AA’s down that clearly did not deserve the br raise.


yeah ozelot going up is weird, specialy since the planes at that br didnt move,

the problem with 1A2 is that the stinger missles are bugged, the proxy stingers cant be equipped since release, the difference between the normal ones and proxy still are a bit

yeah at a later point they propably gonna be decompressed as well

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Its especially strange since the BRs of planes are unchanged. Going with a Gepard against AGM and GBU jets is meh. Same for helicopters. When you play 9.0 or 9.3, you have no defense vs air threats, since Gepard 1 never reaches that far our.

I guess Lav AD and Strela are unchanged. Gajin doesn’t like a certain nation it seems :)


I feel like they moved it up because it got a big boost in usage due to them nerfing all of the standard missile spaa. They see the usage go up and assume it is because it is because it is really good but, when in reality, it is being used more because it was unaffected by the sam/atgm nerf.

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I feel like the Ozelot is just as good as the Strela-10M2 if not just a bit better which is at 9.3. Ozelot should stay 9.3.

Not as bad as the BR of the Type 93

Massive issue for BRs same in AF as GF. Whatever “works” for ground in the recent changes is not going to be reflected in AF if the same idea is used on the air trees. Air effectiveness in ground is so hard to work out since I am sure many aircraft users do not know what they are doing; I know when I flip nations/BRs what works for one vehicle does not work for another.

I would argue that the Ozelot has better technology, yes. However, to say Stingers are inconsistent would be an understatement. They either track perfectly, or decide to try to miss targets flying straight at them. Ozelot’s missiles are also far easier to dodge than the Strela’s in my experience as they have 1/2 the G load but double the engagement distance.

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Not to mention gepard vs mavericks from 8km out

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i mean gaijin feels like its on pars with stuff so … meh

o0nce you got the thermals and the better sam its a ok spaa. the strela is subpar to it. no radar and seeing how the sound system in this game is , a complete nightmare to even find the target

Have you seen the movie “Idiocracy”?

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German mains tend to see one side of the coin which is them, playing the Ozelot in ground battles. The other side doesn’t matter to them.

Imagine you spawn in a plane and you want to do some CAS, then suddenly someone sees you without paying attention to literally anything other than their SILENT NON-EMITING PASSIVE IRST and then they press two buttons and you’re dead. What a champion!

  1. It’s tiny and hard to spot, even more so from the sky.
  2. It’s missile don’t need any guidance from it after launch. (brain-dead)
  3. The stat card says stingers can pull 10G, absolute BS. Pulls more than 20G’s.
  4. Stingers also don’t lose any speed while turning or rolling.
  5. It doesn’t emit any pulse so having an RWR is useless for finding it.
  6. It doesn’t even have a radar dish to make it easier to find.
  7. It’s got Thermal Sight.
  8. It can scout enemies.

Do you see the problem now? Only way to find it is being shot at by it’s stingers and seeing the smoke trail. Is that enough or do I continue?
If you want it to be balanced, put it at 10.0 . It’s a walking 6km no-fly zone.


good joke, stingers dont fly that far and dont lock helis after 2km,

they dont, the bug report is approved and acknowledged they should be 20-25g but they aren.

The LAV AD arguably is the better SPAA and sits at 10.0 able to defeat enemies with their cannon as well, same with the mistral arguably better in air defense as well, and those can double to destroy tanks, while the ozelot is unable to touch anyone


This is hilarious. You truly have never played any Stinger SPAA before have you?

Let me give you a little insight to what it is like.

  1. Spawn in and turn on IRST
  2. Spot a plane 6km
  3. Either A) it’s a plane with laser guided weaponry and it kills you or B) it is an unaware player bombing.
  4. The stinger misses (more likely) or it hits and you get a kill.
  5. It misses, and now they know where you are and you are pretty much useless since they are aware of you.

I play Sweden these days and i love the Saab.

9 out of 10 of the times i get killed its by Strela, plenty of other missiles buzzing around me while i dodge and roll, but when a Strela first get a lock you are dead meat.

Yeah, those missiles are really powerful against aircraft. Against helis? Good luck. You won’t almost ever get a kill on helis with it

thats changing, strela is now getting the optical lock feature to better attack helis

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Chinese Q-5L 9.7 with targetint pod and thermal sight, you know you open your mouth very far fpr someone who is wrong

Could argue A-6E Tram with 10.0 counts as well

I rest my case. If you spaded them, then you KNOW they aren’t good. Dying to them is a skill issue in a plane. If you play as if SPAA is always up, you cannot get shot down. It’s that simple.

And to answer your question, yes I have. You want to know how many times its missiles hit me? A whopping 0 times. Weird how that works.

This post just gets worse as you go on. I’m firing an all aspect Aim 9B, you must be incompetent if you CANT dodge it. Especially a 9.7 plane. What planes would the Ozelot be facing? Let’s see:

Jaguar GR1

What do these planes all share? It simple, that can dodge the Ozelot’s stingers without any trouble.

I’m bite, I want to challenge you, Let’s go into a custom battle. I’ll hop in the Oz and you hop in a plane. Let’s see how “hard” it truly is to dodge a stinger (Hint: it’s not hard at all.)

By the way, just for reference, check my stat card dipshit. I’m not a german main. I don’t play just one nation.

Biggest skill issue rant i’ve ever seen tbh. What’s next, you are gonna say that the Ozelot should be moved to 10.0?