and it does
more often than other ARH AAs
its does because it came in you mind out of no where
or
its does because you got clips of you getting claped by it in the same situation as your saying.
Pretty much an illustration. Yea some people do know what notch is, sure. But the majority doesn’t.
A missile with insane speed that is very hard to multipath, that’s what it is.
It’s far from being the worst multi-vehicle SAM. Things that are worse than it:
1)CLAWS
2)NASAMS 3
3)TYPE 03
4)Tan-SAM Kai
5)HQ-11(pretty much on par, and not multi-vehicle, but worse because well, less missiles and no tracking radar and worse missiles.
6)SPYDER
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finally u realise how irst slm fight vs mi 28 …
Nope. Alone the fact that the new one has a AESA Radar makes it much better. And dont forget the Missiles that are much faster,…AHEAD Rounds,…Tracked Chassis,…
I’m really tired from stat card enjoyers. If max speed higher it doesn’t mean missile is faster in any case. Don’t use stat card. It’s useless in current state.
The number of air targets is limited. The free spaa does some kills anyway, and the regular spaa get fewer targets.
It was about spaa in general. And you can’t ignore the cost of the spaa and plane when you talk about spaa vs heli/plane efficiency.
I never stated anywhere that BUK is better than SAMP/T.
The Buks search radar turns way too slow. By the time it gets a full revolution in, the Pantsirs have scanned the sky like a dozen times, effectively reducing engagment times.
By the time the Buk realizes something is there, the Pansirs have already engaged it.
welcome to the problem every SPAA has
So issue with the BUK is it has more lives, so the KD metric does not work.
BUKs can still fight on without the TADS system BUK needs 3 units destroyed for it to be dead in game.
That means comparatively the BUK will need more than 3 kills per spawn to not have a negative KD
IRIS-T dies when the TADS die and that counts as one death. Because of this CAS players and Heli players will target the TADS to kill the system outright. You cannot do this with BUK.
Gaijins flawed stat gathering is why the BUK looks poor.
Crazy to think a medium range SAM system with longer detection ranges takes longer to scan than a SHORAD system like a Pantsir
and even then its scan rate is about the same as the CLAWS/NASAMS and they have a much weaker radar that is much less likely to detect a target when its scanned
and the BUK can mitigate its bad search radar though proper use of the launcher radars, which also give it very good datalink update rates making it more difficult to evade than other ARH AAs
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Oh I know the AESA work around that negates multipathing, this is why I struggle with this mentality BUK is a bad system.
And it feels incredibly disingenuous from Gaijin like the whole R-77 is bad here is a better missile that does everything the 120 does but with the HOBs capability.
120C is added it flies slightly further…
Rotation speed the same, scan rate not the same. 2s vs 4s.
iirc the back radar on CLAWS does not scan
it only updates known target locations
and so does the IRIS-T, Sky Sabre and CAMM and all of them have better KDs than the BUK
even NASAMS and CLAWS have a better KD
You don’t need to kill 3 things to destroy an IRIS-T you destroy one vehicle and the SAM is dead.
So how many CAS players are bothering to target the launchers…when finding the TADS kills it outright.
BUK has 3 lives no other SAM does and if BUK has 3 lives it must also have 3 deaths every single time it is spawned
your argument is nonesensical
you said that bc the BUK is 3 vehicles, it needs 3 kills to get a KD of 1
and there is multiple other SAMs that have to do the same and perform better
if your TADS get killed in say the IRIS-T it will still count deaths for the launchers bc the game is Jing you out of them
wrong
its 2 not 3
Tan Sam Kai also has
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so does the CLAWS and NASAMS