So we will get ANOTHER russian spaa?

So let’s do this, good Samaritan: you don’t mention me again, and I won’t mention you. On the contrary, you’re the one who’s hot-headed and who tagged me, so shut your mouth because I haven’t spoken to you at any point here. Have a good day.
Don’t tag my @ again

It’s like I’m writing one thing and you’re reading something completely different. Look here, that’s how it works. I mean, America just got the best top-tier missile, and Russia didn’t, so am I supposed to complain about that? No, because I know eventually Russia is going to get it. I just kind of need to grind my knuckles through the current state, and the same goes for AA.

Again, I understand the frustration, but just be patient; the other nations will get their SAMs.

Obviously, russia not always having the best spaa at all times is the most important issue to address.

And there are absolutely no other tech trees that have any AA gaps that should have priority!!

{F370C078-B6B7-4D81-995D-A295B35E88C5} {1660B838-6BCF-43A6-8FDF-B214278D3164} {60D689B6-4AE8-4AB9-9E18-E82632919F78} {452BCFF7-FBC7-4435-818D-13D64AF3B892} {FD2FD274-7CCD-4805-AD2B-57F65E6DE491} {5CC5CB85-63E5-4500-8013-D6DCB58FB687} {E8E6B9E9-7F09-4B2F-AC4F-434E0CF1AAC7} {4FDEA723-7DC7-42F5-989E-EAB5A0721D8F}

As you can see, there are no signficant spaa gaps in any other tech tree, so russia getting the already best SACLOS aa twice in a much better configuration while also having the best cas is totally reasonable!!

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Btw answering this directly, I dislike atrocities committed by everyone without exception, for example Russia shouldn’t be the only one banned from the Olympics, Taiwan’s flag not being an option for China is messed up, remember they gave the justification of “it’s a military flag” while not re-adding the country flag and while germany’s WW2 “IMPERIAL WAR FLAG” still remains etc etc etc, as I said my guy, by criticizing X I’m not defending Y. Wrong is wrong committed either by X, Y, Z or the entire alphabet.

Edit, not adding the VT4 for Thailand under the japanese tech tree is also wrong ☺

bold of you to assume that when the dev server isnt even open yet

Dont be to harsh on them, they dont know what that is.

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Hence, my original question about how is that not political, if we are here to talk about vehicles why are people trying to display political symbology in their nicknames.

And of course, before the outrage of certain individuals is thrown at my sincere noticing and my genuine questions about things, I say this about any type of political symbology, sometimes I see people with SS in their names and I am like, that’s very weird.

What do you mean assume AMRAAM is the best top tier missile for BVR there is no debate

i dont know if youve played toptier air in a while but bvr hasnt been relevant for a very long time.
At the ranges the 120 beats the 77-1, the opponent will have to fly straight ignoring their rwr for a very long time plus it only beats it in a few seconds at MOST

Having the longest range missile in a meta of HOBS shots is meaningless.

Its like saying the ET was the best toptier missile in the IR meta becuse it had the longest range

Anyways, back on topic.

I think it’s obvious people are gonna be upset about an unnecessary addition like this. The Pantsir already excels as a multipurpose AD platform. The BUK is weak, but so is every single ARH missile launcher because of how poorly they are implemented, so giving Russia yet another amazing SACLOS platform makes zero sense whatsoever.

So you presume that I’m from Russia :D :D :D No, I live in the EU. And exacly becous my taxes go (without my consent) to fuel the fire insted for peac, because bunch of unelected bureaucrats want to stay in power, this why I dont see anything political in those there letters…

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are youn special?

Yeah man, in absolutely no way that is not political, the meaning is clear as day. Think of the example I gave, they’re bending this to seem like “Oh it’s just 3 letters representing army groups…” But yeah, if I slap Z’s on my Russian tanks are they just the 26th letter of the alphabet on a military vehicle"? Absolutely not, the meaning is clear.

If I put 2 lightning bolts side by side on my vehicles, or 88 or whatever, are they just lightning bolts? The meaning is clear.
If a literal swastika is on my vehicles, is it just a buddhist symbol?

I’m very seasoned in the discussion of these “ZOV” topics and I can tell you one thing, they are MASTERS of 3 things:

  • Sophism, dodging questions, answering questions with other questions
  • Strawman, “Oh you dislike X therefore you love and defend Y!”
  • Actual and plain denial of facts, no shame in it, not even any attempts to maybe try to bend reality. It’s like saying “The main color of the sky during the day is blue” and getting answered with “No it’s not”

All of which we saw displayed here.

But yeah, I’m done with this topic because atp I don’t want moderation to go any harder than just deleting/editing my posts.

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Dude, how dishonest is that argument even? USA(and UK btw) are getting a better missile on Airframes that are struggling big time.

The F-18E receiving the AIM-120D is NOT going to suddenly make it the best plane around crushing every opposition(unless they make the AIM-120 totally OP, which it is not in the data we currently have. In fact, it’s not even good).

Meanwhile, the new Pantsir is a best-in-class vehicle that will make top tier more unbalanced than it already is for months to come.

I’m sure you wouldn’t be saying this if Russia had ZERO AA capable of dealing with the AH-64E for what, 3 patches now, soon to be 4?

I see we have a different experience because at least for me a lot of the times I do have opportunities for the bvr although my r77 - 1 a lot of the Times doesn’t have the energy where I know for the fact the AMRAM would

yeah u have right gaijin is not satisfied with buk 3 performance and add another toptier spaa with missile than have 1700 m/s and 40 km range?:D + so good radar other nations have big empty br hole for years no problem… in game really no “russian biass” for germany add thectree plane as premium?:D same armament?


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13.0 material

Is there a chance some accounts replying down here are Gaijin employees? Some statements they made are simply just mindshocking and counterintuitive

if you have any theories like that, you could put the launch parameters in statshark and see how an the 120C-5 wouldve performed in that scenario

I’m sorry but F16c is already good enough and they are getting a better missiles with better performance yeah no that argument falls apart at least for the USA

I mean we know how it’s going to be it’s basically going to be a C5 with better/longer tracking distance so it’s going to be good for the bvr And just to distance myself I never said OP best doesn’t mean OP