So we will get ANOTHER russian spaa?

Sure, given that both ITO and Pantsir are at 12.0, if you let gaijin add the exact same multiple target tracking system to the ITO, and give 4 more to add to 12 missiles total, I will stop saying anything. I am serious if you can do that, I won’t say anything about Pantsir ever again

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How is that nickname not even considered political.

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Leave it to RU fanboys to justify the nation already with the best anti DIRCM AA receiving an even better AA(hypersonic this time rofl) while 3 other nations are still defenseless.

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Then go and ask Gaijin for that… I will be the first to support you or who ever put the thread/bug report… insted of thet everybody and they’re sister moan about Pantsir even after the new SAMs ware added and now even more… granted I don’t think we need that (new) Pantsir, but I dont make the calls.

Dont look at his squadron lol

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Nah if you are unable to do so I’m gonna continue yapping about Pantsir

It’s edgy… but there is nothig political…

Dude, do an effort. The new AA are useless against the DIRCM helicopters with fire and forget missiles. The OG Pantsir is the best AA to counter them, even though Russia has the strongest heli of all nations thanks to the LMUR.

Japan and Israel have literally 0 AA that can counter the DIRCM helis. And Germany only has the Flakrad which is near useless against these helis.

And counter is a BIG word since a pilot with 2 braincell will immeditely dive down behind cover to avoid being hit.

Excuse me??? Nothing political? PLEASE elaborate on that.

I am just asking questions mate, but that is definitely political, cannot cheese your way out of that one.

What is the political part in it?

If we’re talking against choppers then I would disagree I genuinely do believe that adats is just better

We both know we can’t engage in that type of discussion because it will specifically land in political territory.

Don’t answer my question with another question, dodging what I asked. Please answer my question directly and I’ll repeat it again:
How is it not political?

You said it’s not and I’m asking you to elaborate.

the only true thing in the your reply

more SPAA, more and more, we need S300, T14, T15, OBJ195 etc…

And I don’t know why people are constantly saying that Russia has the best chopper with IR CCM like LMUR are hard to fight against but at least you’re fighting 8 of them unlike 16 spikes

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You claim it is political… you elaborate… I see only 3 letters representing army groups and the name of the russian spec ops… where is the political stuff?

Edit: btw “Spetnaz” is literally meaning “Spec Ops”

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And what problem with more AA yeah it’s for Russia but so what If anything I would say add more into other countries as well fuck CAS

??? This must be a joke right?

The Pantsir has more missiles, faster, that pull harder, and go further.
Its radar is so much better in tracking quality, refresh, and elevation covered.
Its guns are better.
It has better optics.(better thermal and zoom)
And it can automatically guide multiple missiles to shoot down bombs/missiles fired at it.

The ONLY thing the ADATS does better than the Pantsir is that it can somewhat kill vehicles with its missiles.