I’m really tired from stat card enjoyers. If max speed higher it doesn’t mean missile is faster in any case. Don’t use stat card. It’s useless in current state.
The number of air targets is limited. The free spaa does some kills anyway, and the regular spaa get fewer targets.
It was about spaa in general. And you can’t ignore the cost of the spaa and plane when you talk about spaa vs heli/plane efficiency.
I never stated anywhere that BUK is better than SAMP/T.
The Buks search radar turns way too slow. By the time it gets a full revolution in, the Pantsirs have scanned the sky like a dozen times, effectively reducing engagment times.
By the time the Buk realizes something is there, the Pansirs have already engaged it.
welcome to the problem every SPAA has
So issue with the BUK is it has more lives, so the KD metric does not work.
BUKs can still fight on without the TADS system BUK needs 3 units destroyed for it to be dead in game.
That means comparatively the BUK will need more than 3 kills per spawn to not have a negative KD
IRIS-T dies when the TADS die and that counts as one death. Because of this CAS players and Heli players will target the TADS to kill the system outright. You cannot do this with BUK.
Gaijins flawed stat gathering is why the BUK looks poor.
Crazy to think a medium range SAM system with longer detection ranges takes longer to scan than a SHORAD system like a Pantsir
and even then its scan rate is about the same as the CLAWS/NASAMS and they have a much weaker radar that is much less likely to detect a target when its scanned
and the BUK can mitigate its bad search radar though proper use of the launcher radars, which also give it very good datalink update rates making it more difficult to evade than other ARH AAs
Oh I know the AESA work around that negates multipathing, this is why I struggle with this mentality BUK is a bad system.
And it feels incredibly disingenuous from Gaijin like the whole R-77 is bad here is a better missile that does everything the 120 does but with the HOBs capability.
120C is added it flies slightly further…
Rotation speed the same, scan rate not the same. 2s vs 4s.
iirc the back radar on CLAWS does not scan
it only updates known target locations
and so does the IRIS-T, Sky Sabre and CAMM and all of them have better KDs than the BUK
even NASAMS and CLAWS have a better KD
You don’t need to kill 3 things to destroy an IRIS-T you destroy one vehicle and the SAM is dead.
So how many CAS players are bothering to target the launchers…when finding the TADS kills it outright.
BUK has 3 lives no other SAM does and if BUK has 3 lives it must also have 3 deaths every single time it is spawned
your argument is nonesensical
you said that bc the BUK is 3 vehicles, it needs 3 kills to get a KD of 1
and there is multiple other SAMs that have to do the same and perform better
if your TADS get killed in say the IRIS-T it will still count deaths for the launchers bc the game is Jing you out of them
wrong
its 2 not 3
Tan Sam Kai also has
so does the CLAWS and NASAMS
BUK can fight on without the TADS with 2 launchers, it can fight on with one launcher.
No other SAM can do that.
Not based on how Gaijin gather the data this was taken from a well known Youtuber:
Because both TADS and TELAR are counted to KD ratio, but devs seem to be too stupid enough to notice it. Instead of making only TELAR count as a death they add new missile system
This becomes more problematic for systems that do not die when you kill the brain of the system and the BUK demonstrates this if we were to a SAM off, there is no way the BUK is the worst
Back radar can discover new targets and put them on radar screen. It’s scan, no?
Tan Sam Kai, CLAWS and NASAMS arent ingame ig
so you are proving your whole argument about the buk stats wrong
great job
The only time I put by skysabres close is when I’m hiding amongst some buildings so that missiles are very unlikely to spot me.
Skill gaps ruining game balance once again
NASAMs dies if the Radar is destroyed
as does CLAWS
Tan Kai is like the BUK
