You just land at the nearest airfield, regardless of whether there’s AA defense or not.
If there’s no enemy around, fine, that’s okay.
But when an enemy shows up, you just bail out so it doesn’t matter if he destroys your plane — you just respawn like nothing happened.
In the pictures below, the guy attacked me about 4 km from the airfield, then landed. After I took out his teammate, I came back to finish him off, but he J out once. Then he came back and J out a second time when he realized I was coming for him.
Just look at the chat — it’s so disgusting.
There’s no fair play, no honor in doing this. Just pure cowardice.
We can do it Fairly ? or just a bug to be fixed ?
You’re able to J out on the airfield without dying in order to change your loadout, so it isn’t a bug. You’re also able to leave the match at any point, but that counts as a death, unless you J’ed out on the airfield.
There’s nothing that really can be done unless Gaijin doesn’t punish players for dying.
I don’t really have much of a problem with this if just to dodge a strafe. I do have a problem with it, if they use it to stall out a match on the airfield with AAA, same with people who fly circles around their AF. I just really dislike the AAA airfields (when people run to it for ‘help’), I just don’t even bother at all dealing with it.
So what you can do to prevent this constant back and forth trying to strafe into them J’ing out is to give them some room. Make them try to take off, meanwhile you can set up the kill. If you’re lucky, they start taking off while you come in for the kill, and the moment they go 30kmh+, J’ing out will result into them dying.
Personally don’t think you should be able to J out on the undefended airfield. Seen plenty of folk just J out every time instead of bothering to take off and fight, even when given distance the moment they see another player they’ll run to it and constantly leave the aircraft before they lose it. J
The guy just fled from me, landed and J-out instantly to avoid dying. I mean it"s like running away from an enemy and getting protected by the AAA airfields. Same politic, just different manner
But I Don’t understand why Gaijin doesnt consider the fact that if you J-out for whatever reason, and your plane got destroyed, you wouldn’t be able to play anymore.
From my point of view, this would be pure logic. Plane destroyed = You’re dead = you cannot respawn
Yeah I guess that’s annoying if he made zero attempt to do anything, even with room. And I can see that, I think it would be good if they did change it so J’ing doesn’t make you invincible. I mean in the end, you can only be airfield strafed if you decide to land which is entirely a voluntary choice, so I think that’s fine.
I’m quite glad I haven’t had to deal with any airfield shenanigans for a long while now. I am also for just removing airfield AAA altogether honestly., but I don’t think that will ever happen.
Well, I do like the J’ing out part for loadout switching and being able to rearm slightly faster, especially if you don’t have a maxxed out crew. So I quite like the proposal above, where if your plane gets destroyed, it just kills you even if you J out.
You can do this on any airfield you own, even on the captured ones midfield, like on Malta.
How you want to change your loadout without j out?
The problem in your case is the time gap between he is j out and you attacking. When his j out counter is zero his marker disappear but the vehicle is still there and you can damage it, but it doesn’t count.
Fun fact: If you not damaged by enemy at all, you can j out (without death) without repairing. You only have to stop the vehicle.
Anway, if you in need to make your kills this way,…
Whilst i actually agree that it is extremely annoying to get near an unprotected airfield just to see your enemy uses the j out function to avoid getting strafed - a short reminder that this could have ended far worse than that for you.
The Spitfire was not attacking you upfront, he just faked an attack but he decided to sacrifice the damaged P-59A (which had previously team killed an F8F-1 right after take-off) in order to rearm - he had just 24 shells left (VC trrop) and would have been locked in dogfight if he would have missed his 3 shots. He did not fire on you.
As he was undamaged the first j out accelerated the rearming, the second j out was when you were ~ 1.2. Km away. I would have done the same.
This possibility is not new and gets really annoying if you have to get this kill at all cost - like when you have the chance to strafe op stuff like BIs or Yak-3Us. Usually you can’t afford to extend too far as will get caught when they respawn - but simultaneously you run into the risk getting boxed in by guys having repaired at their main airfield and other enemies returning from the center of the map.
As long it is not explicitly forbidden it is allowed - you play a shooter.
Disgusting seems not adequate, but you were not really polite.
Accusing others to be a noob whilst getting outsmarted with a rather scummy and very old tactic is a little bit too much for me.
Announcing public shaming in the wt forum is not comprehensible for me, same as asking others to report the Spitfire pilot, he did not violate the ToS.
Match feedback (just if you want):
The fact that you were able to get to this strafing scenario and even survived this match is a miracle.
You climbed with too high speed (~350 kmph IAS) which is not optimal; try 300-310 kmph, otherwise you lose too much altitude vs better climbers and you reduce the time until the merge with an altitude disadvantage.
Without the team kill of the P-59 the enemy F8F-1 (climbed on your side) would have ended way above you with a similar speed.
Whilst you climbed a little bit too fast, the enemy P-59 climbed way too slow (220 -250 IAS) which is a clear sign that he had zero clue how to use it properly.
He noticed you upfront but turned away (with 220 IAS),forgot you and flow then below you - which allowed you to shoot off one horizontal stabilizer & elevator in your first dive which was good and extremely important.
He tried to retreat to his airfield and after multiple attempts you managed to kill him whilst he was still able to dodge muliple attacks even with just one horizontal stabilizer. The kil was very good and important.
But you have not kept an eye on your surroundings and overlooked the approaching Spitfire. If the guy had not spend 95% of his ammo for 4 previous kills, the game would have been over for you.
After leaving the Spit alone you performed a FCH vs a US 190 A-8 which you miraculously survived with a large part of your left wing missing.
You seriously started insulting and calling a player a coward and noob for using J for avoid being killed on the ground? And you also tell him you’ll post it on the forum
It sounds pretty funny coming from a guy who is sitting still on the airfield not giving his enemy a chance to take off and fight, if he has no chance to take off and fight then he is right, I have done it myself
How can I know he had 24 shells left ? He attacked me. It’s like someone faking a murder attempt with an airsoft gun ? How can a cop know if it is a real gun or not ? He made the move, he shot at me and then fled to the airfield. He had enough speed and energy to go to the other airfield protected with AAA. I wouldnt have reached him if he did so .
Plus as you can see on the replay, if he aimed correctly, If I didn’t avoid the head to head, he would have killed me for sure. He is probably better than me with my FW 190 i’m trying to understand.
So it’s a deeper issue. Upgrading ur crew to be faster on the airfield would be useless ?
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Well I didnt say it is forbidden, for me it’s like using a glitch
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I was very upset , Second time that happened to me
You’re right, I shouldn"rt react like this. Maybe it comes with my knee surgery because I had a ski accident a month ago lol
I still don"t understand why it is so badly seen to attack an aircraft on the ground , there are dev who created AA defense for a reason. Why do they bother to make protected airfields that consume ressources of our computer if there’s another one without AA you can use and J-Out ? Why would they allow us to upgrade our crews to be faster on the airfield if you can J-Out to be quicker ? What a waste of ressource and money lol.
I’m just an engineer trying to be rational, i’m sorry guys
People can J-out, so long as they don’t camp their airfield. If they don’t spawn the timer starts ticking down anyway, so that’s a victory in my books.
