"Small" rant about captured/lend lease vehicles in tech trees

[hjnbnb]

@Morvran

But it was hard denied. Because it never actually live fired a missile. it only carried mock-up weapons. Though it had everything else. Radar, RWR, CMs, etc

What about the Yak-141 never having any of the equipment it needed to ever be combat ready? And gaijin can’t make an exception saying USSR struggles either.

[Morvran]

Maybe. I’ve been predicting the FA2 will be 12.0-12.3. I’ve seen people predicting the Mig-21 to be about 12.0-12.3.

Its possible theyd be the same BR. it would be carried by its radar/Missiles. but the entire meta is about to go that way I think. Otherwise aircraft like the Typhoon are never going to be added. Not a lot can beat it in WVR

[Morvran]

Yeah… That was the argument we all made. As well as the F-16AJ only existing in a brochure

[hjnbnb]

At the time I could understand the AJ to a point as Japan didn’t have anything… but now they have the F-15J it should be removed and eventually replaced with the F-2

[Kathryn_Janeway]

@hjnbnb

Well artificially buff/nerf it, they do it to other vehicles so why not this one?

These buff/nerf are always biased toward [ahem i dont want to get censored or start ww3 here] y’know x)

@hjnbnb

They’ve already thrown realism out the window.

Problem is they still want it to look like realism for some reason.

@hjnbnb

True but are they going to do both?

I think I saw the 21-93 on a leak list somewhere

@Morvran

But it was hard denied. Because it never actually live fired a missile. it only carried mock-up weapons. Though it had everything else. Radar, RWR, CMs, etc

Well that’s kinda sad… but yeah the Yak 141 situation.

[Morvran]

Riley went full deep dive. Well worth reading his research:

The British Mini-Typhoon the BAe EAP

[r/Warthunder - The British 12.0 Mini Typhoon the BAe EAP] The EAP in flight. Before anyone comments to inform me that the EAP was rejected (I know, I made the proposal), this thread exists for me to document my sources and for other individuals who are fans of the EAP or would like to see it in game to deposit theirs, this is done in accordance with Smin’s response to myself which said the EAP would be fine in the machinery of war category but with the current provided information did not fit…

[YaSen]

I don’t care much about C&P, but the most annoying thing for me is the need to research the same vehicle multiple times. It would be much better if once I researched a model in one TT it would be also available in other (I’m talking here about exact same models, such as for example M4A4 in Italy, France and China).
PS I also don’t like anything about trialed vehicles and captured vehicles in the regular trees (unless it was used in numbers, such as Italian D.520 for example).

[Morvran]

Or even if the mods carried over. So it wasnt a stock grind everytime

[Kathryn_Janeway]

@Охраняет-Камни

the need to research the same vehicle multiple times

Exactly. (And they delayed RP overhaul yet again lol)

@Охраняет-Камни

I also don’t like anything about trialed vehicles and captured vehicles in the regular trees (unless it was used in numbers

They should always go to premium/battlepass/event/squadron.

[hjnbnb]

@Kathryn_Janeway

These buff/nerf are always biased toward [ahem i dont want to get censored or start ww3 here] y’know x)

What are you talking about there’s no bias in this game! ;)

@Kathryn_Janeway

Problem is they still want it to look like realism for some reason.

They say they go for realism but we all know it’s bs (Banana sausages)

@Kathryn_Janeway

I think I saw the 21-93 on a leak list somewhere

I don’t know I don’t usually buy into them. My bad though.

@Охраняет-Камни

It would be much better if once I researched a model in one TT it would be also available in other (I’m talking here about exact same models, such as for example M4A4 in Italy, France and China).
PS I also don’t like anything about trialed vehicles and captured vehicles in the regular trees (unless it was used in numbers, such as Italian D.520 for example).

This is actually a genius idea Provided done right. In my opinion you still shouldn’t be able to research the M4A4 in one country and play it in another you haven’t started. Ie you still have to research that rank to buy the thing, just the research is already done.

[Morvran]

@Kathryn_Janeway

I think I saw the 21-93 on a leak list somewhere

Its been on previous ones, but not on the current list (iirc). Which to me is really wierd and what gives me hope it is actually going to hte soviet TT.

Because if Britain got it at 12.0/12.3 as a premium (and the first ARH premium) that was a soviet aircraft. Before the soviets did…

It would piss off both the Soviets and many British

[hjnbnb]

@Kathryn_Janeway

They should always go to premium/battlepass/event/squadron.

Yes and no. I think that is still quite bad, as I mentioned earlier they should be based off of a particular vehicle or person, like Bong’s P-38 for example. It will give it more purpose. And it’s not like it has to be hard, just change the texture to one vehicle that was captured irl, and have personal markings on them.

[Kathryn_Janeway]

@Morvran

It would piss off both the Soviets

T-62 545 ;)

@Morvran

Its been on previous ones, but not on the current list (iirc). Which to me is really wierd and what gives me hope it is actually going to hte soviet TT.

I would say I won’t have too much hope about that since the T-90S goes to UK TT.

[hjnbnb]

@Morvran

It would piss off both the Soviets and many British

Not to mention the Americans crying how much they suffer (I know most wouldn’t but there’s always the select few like the one advocating for a US MiG-29)

[Morvran]

Yeah…

its pretty clear what they are doing. In both respects.

T-90 is the strongest MBT in our TT (outperforms the Challenger 2s in quite a few respects, would have done if it didnt loose its original shell to go down to 10.3)

its entire purpose is to bodge our TT with some “soviet bias”. It was easier than fiixng the Challengers.

This does the same thing. Add a Mig-21 as a premium and they can forget about the Tornados (and quite frankly all of our aircraft) being totally unfinished and underperforming. Such a shame. Especially as you can gurantee that this indian Mig-21 will likely be perfectly modeled, but we’ll have to wait 6 months for the FA2 to have bugs fixed

[Morvran]

I saw someone asking for a Brazilian Gripen NG (basically a Gripen E) to be added to the US tech tree

[Kathryn_Janeway]

Yeah this is sad… Minor nations (except Sweden) suffers :|

[hjnbnb]

Yeah I don’t know what’s up with American mains, a lot seem to cry about how much they suffer and seem to think they deserve all the soviet stuff and extra help.

[Morvran]

The constant calls for Aim-9X is funny as well.

I cant wait for Typhoon to be added.

[Kathryn_Janeway]

Once saw a US main crying J-7D with 4 PL-5B at 11,0 too OP ;)