I’m afraid that on the contrary it would make the more powerful planes even more dangerous:
The players getting enough SP first to spawn a top predator will do so, and the ones who didn’t now have to fight a vastly superior adversary with little chance to survive and get into a top predator as well.
and the gen4 fighters need the “old” controll and fm. f16 and the mig29 is pathetic and unrealistic. f16 and the mig29 have fly by wire but that not exsist in the game atm… when i try any hard turn the planes go flatspin… its okey with any plane in 3.7 but not the gen4 fighters…
no nothing. a buddy later said he had seen an “all against all” room on the same BR. Finally, my game was on and I played to the end. I didn’t watch any more after that.
when there are good rooms, of course I go in there. then I don’t sit in the lobby and try to open up.
yes I know that gaijin wants less rooms but full rooms,- but the best rooms are not the completely full ones. max 5 vs 5 or max 6 vs 6 battles are often much more interesting tactically. overcrowded rooms can also be fun but on small maps is it just chaos. for variety it is good if rooms are sometimes full and sometimes less full. otherwise it always feels the same.
even if my team is inferior, I try to do my best. (unless it’s really greek and his people, then it’s not so funny …not even in his team. because the guy doesn’t do teamwork but just wants to steal kills …no matter).
there’s nothing to be said against it. camels don’t bite, only sometimes.
by “the desired number of rooms” whether against each other or for each other (??!!)
you said it yourself, these are experiences. and the experience of my old team is that there is too little flexibility here in Sim. I don’t mean 5 minutes waiting time. I’m really talking about 40 minutes to 1 hour +. in other games and also in DCS (yes it’s hard to compare) we could always fly immediately. that’s what I mean by flexibility. I want to fly. otherwise I’ll download the waiting room simulator. if there is such a thing
waiting is one thing, the other is battles that end too quickly. so that new players don’t even have the chance to join.
@Schindibee But Schindibee now a top predator flies permanently with an OP plane. and he can permanently spawn again in an OP plane. the old SP system has proven itself for many years and was accepted (I don’t mean the timers). the players who came after 2021 don’t know the old system, but still write it’s bad.
Not for me, no.
My first few steps into Sim were when that system was still in place, and I quickly dropped it again, as I wanted a game mode where I can fly exactly the aircraft I wanted to fly. Not top predators in my case, but attackers, but still, I was forced to fly stuff I didn’t want to fly instead of what I wanted.
As if this isn’t an issue already if I don’t happen to have that top plane yet? It’s not fun gameplay fighting F-14Bs and F-16Cs in my MiG-23MF.
yes, I understand of course. but I’m also forced to fly almost only nation sets that I don’t want. There will probably be no return to SP. But there were also advantages. for example, SP was quickly earned, it was a motivation and the ace didn’t just fly the OP plane all the time.
Not only is the top plane not being flown all the time, but it also means that only a few are active at a time at most, compared to the current system where the entire enemy team is in F-14Bs and F-16Cs and the opposing team has basically just left because they’re getting curb stomped by objectively better planes.
This was a feature back in the day, but it was abused. Players in a match for longer than 15 minutes would bully all the people not able to spawn in their own top dogs.
We are better off without SP these days.
I liked some things about the SP system (like having a purpose for lineups), but where it failed hard, was when you want to work on a vehicle on the high end of the bracket. Nothing was more frustrating than finally getting the SP to unlock your vehicle, then some tryhard kills you at your airfield before you get to research any modules.
I enjoy the current brackets tons more than the SP system. It allows every vehicle a chance to be top tier in their bracket. More vehicles get a chance to be the meta, and otherwise useless vehicles become useful when they are the top of the bracket.
Also, the brackets allow players to actually use their boosters on their plane of choice. We didn’t have that freedom with the SP system.
abuse? what?? the people have earned their SP and used the airplanes! today zombers can “zomb with bomb” without restriction. and today aces from the top 100 list can use their OP aircraft permanently without restriction. SP has ensured reasonable “regulation” of the battles. SP had disadvantages but also advantages. this has nothing to do with abuse.
yes, it had pros and cons
Forgot to mention. I also believe a reversal back to the SP system would be detrimental to the Sim community. There would be a lot of backlash and the community would shrink.
Mig-21SMT/MF/Bis, F-104S, Sea Harrier, F-8E, Mitsubishi F-1, J-7, Mirage F-1, Mirage 3, Viggen; radar on, kill the zombers.
yes, you’re right. but I had already described that above. “that would be a very radical measure now!” but it probably won’t happen. Gaijin himself really wanted to get rid of the SP. regardless of whether we thought it was good or bad.
the long period between the SP deactivation and the introduction of the rotation was the worst time in EC Sim. I think we had the biggest loss of players at that time. the main reason was of course usefull action. but the deactivation of SP also had a very negative effect before the rotation come.
there has been no replacement for the SP system to date! there were only rough emergency measures. the rotation was intended as an emergency measure to improve the bad situation after the SP deactivation. there is no replacement for the SP system. Gaijin never thought about a successor system. the official posts from 2021 show that these were only “early” [cough] ad hoc measures. what the real successor system should be was never announced.
people really believe that what we have now is the “goal” - No! we are still in the middle of the “repair phase” to repair the damage from summer 2021!
it only took them 2 weeks to ruin the mode back then (since the introduction of usefull action). without naming all the measures now. Gaijin have not managed to repair this damage in more than 2 years!
I´m ok I’m fine. I’m just upset about gaijin right now hahahah
I hope you know the difference between bombers and zombes. have fun.
I would like to briefly explain what I meant above in case I have expressed myself wong. I think I have written enough for today :)
in German Army we have a word called “Behelfslösung” or “Behelfsloesung”. this describes exactly what the rotation is in EC Sim. the rotation is not a replacement for the old SP system but only a “Behelfsloesung”. :D
the german army ran out of fuel for the trucks in 1945. so bicycles were used as a “Behelfslösung”. the current german air force had no replacement for the Panavia Tornados for a long time. so the Tornados had to fly as a “Behelfslösung” until they fell apart. now the replacement is finally coming.
Gaijin still owes us an answer as to what kind of “SP replacement” is finally coming!
So good night
Hey so we already have a thread for this.
Im pretty sure that we all agreed that its entierly pointless because no one at Gajijn reads this forum. So youre just preaching to choir.
I believe devs definitely read the forums. Our main issue is that they have to listen to what the majority of the community wants, and currently some tank player complaining about penetration of his shell get’s 10x more views and interaction than any sim thread does, because ground / rb player base vastly outnumber us.