yeah its HMD agile eagle aim-7s with a pulse dop radar
its the best phantom other than the ICE
Its still a generation 3 platform mate.
Nah the F4EJ kai also beats it due to radar set from an F16.
The F4S however does not deserve to sit at the same BR as the objectively better in every way , F18A, F16A, Mirage 2000S C-4 etc etc
or would you have the F4S square off against the likes of the su34? .
as well as that you have the Mig29’s, F16AJs etc 12.7 iterations, all one step above it?
nah mate
F4EJ kai doesnt get agile eagle
it has zero right to be same BR as F4J when its better
It gets a substantially better radar set.
and 9Ls
Thats an issue of compression.
You cannot just ram it up there and hope for the best
its HMD agile eagle. EJ kai it at 12.3 and it only got 9L, not a notable improvement especially when considering F-4S can equip 6 sparrow instead of 4.
Have beaten a few F16s (bad players, but still) with the F1 using cannons without AAMs, not sure how folk are losing to mig 21s. And I’m abysmal at air to air.
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You’re overlooking the ej kai also has the F16 radar set
(It is arguably over BRd right now but its due to compression)
The F4S has an inferior radar to the ej kai by a sizable margin.
4 aim7Fs on an F16 radar set sre far more likely to land than 6 on the f4s radar set.
Then ofc the 4 x 9Ls help massively compared to 9H
Exactly my point the mirage f1C is not a bad airframe.
Back when it dropped before it got buffed over the past 3 years it was a pretty poor airframe like it wasnt good.
Now but as far as third gens go its pretty solid.
Mig21s cant touch it if you use it properly aka dont just try turn with them.
Same as f5’s you can out energy them too if you play it right cause the f5 has a far narrower Margin of retention…
Can even beat f4es and most 12.0s
I really believe HMS defeat radar quality below 13.3, the flexibility defeats track quality in my eyes since I don’t treat sparrow like AMRAAM or Alamo ER.
You can be a prick by turning with them whilst dragging them vertically with a shallow rate of climb, it infuriates the lil beans.
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And they always seem to chase as well its hilarious man
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Regardless of what you believe, tbe EJ kai radar is far more difficult to notch, break lock and sometimes get past tbe headon with.
The F4S while a great phantom still struggles to get and maintain that lock compared to the kai
As well as that, 4 x 9L is also a massive boom
if you can make EJ kai not get lock in the first place, you win. you can make F4S out of position and its still gonna sling you.
F4s out of position is less likely to lock and sling than an eh kai its radar scope is not only smaller but weaker.
Now we are off topic man
HMD for F-4J/S is borderline useless due to fact that it has no missiles that can take advatage of it
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Exactly my point, hell on the F4J it struggles to even get a lock the ACM mode is more reliable xD
EJ KAI also has the longer nose and nose mounted gun