Already demonstrated that there is not 3 with the same payload. There are 2, and they are of effectively the same variant so both the tech tree and premium players can enjoy it. CT and the base F1C and F1C-200 are different even aside from payload.
You want to know what would allow for that without degrading the experience of either premium players or tech tree players? An early variant specifically to have the limited AAM capacity. Which you could put your energy behind, instead of wanting to create a virtually unplayable experience in an uptier from 11.7 without all aspect AAMs facing 12.7 aircraft. You can argue all you want that it would be 11.3, but the flight model would not facilitate that. That is before we consider weaponry and defensive capacity.*
*I would also note, in your own words, you acknowledge that F1s would effectively seal club at a lower rating with: “It could be a beast at 11.3 or 11.7”
Explaining why you’re wrong is not casting aside. Screaming into the aether that your opposition knows very little and you’re the only one with knowledge is.
Some of the F1 Cs were converted into C 200s (about half of the fleet I think) but both aircraft were in service at the same time and were withdrawn from service at the same time, it is normal that they have the same armament
In game there is barely a difference between the 3 versions.
Unfortunately the French F.1C-200 ended up being a premium instead of a Spanish or Iraqi one but that simply is the situation.
I have explained why, but you don’t want to hear it, so you don’t comprehend it. I am sure these other lovely individuals could point to my explanations and you would still beseech the void to say it isn’t so.
As far as air to air is concerned it pretty much is.
Personally I would have prefered to have C in a early configuration, with CT and C-200 being the later tech tree variants with a Iraqi or Spanish variant as a premium.
Alternatively: We should just remove the A10 early and A10 late because those designations mean effectively nothing but a historical distinction on payload, and according to this individual we can’t have that.
What do you mean? Since yesterday you’ve been telling us that because the ground attack version has the same armament as the air combat version, the air combat version should be artificially nerfed. If I follow the same logic, I propose that we remove the AIM-9M from the F-15C and put AIM-9Gs in their place.
Exactly what you did. Excuse me that I am not willing to scroll up now and pick out comments if you want we can boil the argument down to your response to removing Magic 1 and putting the plane at 11.3 or 11.7 depending wether Super 530F stays for example.
I would support having Magic 2 removed from F.1.
This is neither a nerf since the Br would be adjusted accordingly nor would it be artifical since Mirage F.1C served mostly without Magic 2 if I’m not mistaken.
It would however fill a gap in the tech tree, take off the edge regarding uptiers and make for lovely gameplay all without seal clubbing lower Brs as I have pointed out in soon to be reaching excruciating detail.