No. Read what I said.
Yes, that’s true, I’ll probably close the forum for today before I start talking nonsense and getting angry.
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It is not necessarily more favourable since you have to work harder for kills.
You simply wont have to face 4th gen jets as much.
All in line with being a air to air focused initial variant.
Lovely isn’t it.
You already misinterpreted some posts of mine.
“It is not more favourable but it grants you this great boon of not fighting 4th gen aircraft that you can keep up with quite comfortably”.
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Can you confirm that your argument is that you want to remove the Magic 2 because you find that the plane is too similar to the other two (while as explained it is not similar)?
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With the caveat that they do not desire an F1C (Early), instead favouring the degradation of current platforms.
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The flight model allows it to retain energy.
Energy is used to win every fight almost.
It has a good sustaijed turn rate, and actually good angle of attack.
Two strong cannons with a decent amount of ammo, lots of countermeasures as well being able to out pace or out rate the planes below it
Also the fact you dont see the advantage of its flight model , retention and genuine advantages like speed. As an advantage says a lot.
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It is not simply about similarity. That is not the motivating favtor as I stated above.
The baseline is that Mirage F.1 is pressed into 12.0 above all else by carrying Magic 2.
Without Magic 2 it would be somewhat compareable to MiG-23.
MiG-23 does hold some clear advantages still in that situation and there are many more competitive aircraft at 11.7 and below as I pointed out previously.
Since as far as I am aware Mirage F.1C served with Magic 1 during it’s heydays taking the opportunity to create some variation between the Mirage F.1 variants we currently have as far as a2a is concerned would add variety in gameplay and fill a gap in the tech tree.
Can’t wait for this to be ignored in creative and fun ways.
Except I somehow suspect it will just be “No, that’s not true” whilst pointing to an example that proves it.
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He literally Explained to you why it has magic 2s mate
MiG-23 and J-7E will just outrate it.
F.1 can pull hatd at low speed but it becomes a bit of a bus at lower speeds.
Lovely AOA but not much retention below compressing speeds.
I am willing to try it out with you.
Though running wont count as a victory.
You can outrun some high tier aircraft in 9.7 planes but that wont change their efficiency in air to air.
Mig 23 wont out rate it.
They have the huge issue of choosing speed or rate.
Cant really do both anymore.
J7E OUT RATES BUT CANT OUT PACE.
Please read what im saying…
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I must be Nostradamus, I predicted the future.
You are wrong about MiG-23.
It is not about reading comprehension it is me laughing about the idea you seemingly have that running away in F.1 will net you kills.
Sorry what? The f1 has fantastic refention at any speed if you are aware not to just slam the elevators.
Hell its a better F8E seeihg ss it irl was inspired by the F8E.
As well as this it does not become a bus at lower speeds at all, bar below 400 kmph and if you are that slow you’ve played it wrong
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Not true.
Or rather you might sustain your speed but you are below ideal speed for fighting.
F.1 is not very efficient that slow.
To be fair, if you’re that slow, the target’s probably far worse off. Generally takes dodgy play on both parties to get into that situation.
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You genuinely dont understand what you’re talking about
The f1 is one of my most used planes mate.
The mig23 can either choose to sweep its wings and it ill catch a mirage, however it also bleeds an astronomical amount of speed as it essentially turns it into a delta.
Or it can sweep its wings out, and mot be able to keep up with the mirage.
you seem unable to grasp the importance of being able to control the engagement
Ive spaded the mig23M and MLD both are significantly worse to fly than the mirage F1
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You’ve either fully commited and both parties are slabs as you say , or you fked up.
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