Sunshine, your arguments have about as much polish as a sphere does a cutting edge. There is no heavy hitting here.
You are, at worst, dishonest. At best, you’re ill informed. I am not high and mighty, I am just on my last legs regarding swearing at people for ineptitude on the forums, and I really would rather not cross that line. I haven’t the patience for souls like you, and I never have.
Like what? You can out pace every plane below it.
If you manage your energy and stay in a constant mach 1.1 turn basically nothing can touch you, at all.
F5 cant keep up, mig23 cant either as it would need its wings swept back and actively loses more speed the more sweep in turns.
Yes they would, its literally better than all of yhem even if restricted to magic 1s
A slightly damp supersonic bit of toast would outperform the viggen in almost every aspect.
Looks at super etendard
No thanks. I don’t want to be reminded the state of my poor Swedish tree. 😿
I need to spade it still actually
I would offer to help, but it’s not fun facing F16s constantly 😿
Removing Magic 2 would be just as historical.
Viggen, J-7E , F-8E, F-5E, MiG-23ML/MLA/MLD and Draken can tear the F.1 a new one if you catch my drift.
I have to admit that this discussion is driving me to despair 😂. I don’t even see what arguments I could put forward in addition, I even offered to make suggestions for new variants but oh well
You can run away from some but that wont help you if you actually have to fight…
Shitpost.
Yea, despair here too.
Depends on handling.
It is not like I am not waiting for reasonable arguments you keep beating around the bush.
What depends on handling .
What are you on about ive told you why the mirages are better thsn all thr platforms you mentioned.
Even with restrictions to magic 1
But you are wrong about that.
I could likely beat quite a few Viggen players in Super Étendard but beating Super Étendard in Viggen is easier.
You’ve been provided with many. You’ve been provided with an alternative. You’ve been provided with reasoning behind why the alternative would be a better investment of your time to push for. Instead, you’ve stuck your head in the ground and dismissed everything others have given you, because it runs counter to your desire to take a hatchet to platforms to suit your fantasy.
We can give you all the reasons on the planet, but at some point, we have to accept you don’t want to hear them and instead will continue to dismiss them with “That isn’t true” regardless of how much fact is (or in this case isn’t) behind your positions. We’ve done you the courtesy of engaging with you and providing you sound reasoning, but you’ve demonstrated yourself impervious to sense.