I thought we are talking about F.1C.
F.1CT and F.1C-200 should remain as they are.
If F.1C was had it’s weaponry and Br reworked we would have some more variety as well.
The f1c as in the 12.0?
It too should remain where it is
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For those interested, I’m currently preparing a suggestion for an early Mirage F1. It would solve the problem if it were added, it would bring a Mirage F1 without Magic 2 and with only R530s, it would fill the gap between the Mirage III and the current Mirage F1.
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Better alternative than taking a hatchet to what’s already present.
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I would like to see that one at a different Br.
Not only having to focus on the way I use it’s missiles and concentrate on “actually” playing with that aircraft, If that makes any sense to you, would be nice.
The CT and C-200 would remain untouched creating a win-win situation.
The F1C is identical to the F1C 200 you are aware of that no?
F1C-200 does differ slightly not as far as gameplay is concerned of course. CT is missing one cannon.
Why not have the C at a lower Br? It is the first variant to be produced anyway. Why do all 3 need to be in the exact same configuration?
I dunno, but these configurations seem distinctly different, before we even consider the other differences of the platforms.
Mirage F1CT:
Mirage F1 (Premium and not):
The only difference between the F1C and F1 200 is the air refueling prob.
Same loadouts.
The F1C was designed to be used as a more air to air plane, while the F1CT still has AGMS for round strike. EDIT: well it used to actually have anti tank ground missiles. Its been that long since ive looked at it.
the platforms are the same, the loadout varies marginally
EDIT to build on the other edit, technically because the F1CT is missing most its Anti ground gear it’s loadout looks empty.
However my statement was the F1C and F1 200 are identical.
as this is what @POLYDEUCES said
"I thought we are talking about F.1C.
F.1CT and F.1C-200 should remain as they are.
If F.1C was had it’s weaponry and Br reworked we would have some more variety as well."
as he is saying hte F1CT should remain where it isbut hte F1C get a rework? for no reason
Aye, but they said all 3 are the same configuration. Just highlighting CT and base F1 have notably different payload. CT belongs where it is, as does the F1 after all the fixes.
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Aye caues the F1CT is missing half its gear, it gets more larger bombs though as it was more designated for ground attakc
CT also has a much better rwr. The AAM access is reduced on CT (Not overly, but it’s still missing a pylon you could load, which after a number of changes is actually useful now). But it’s a far better strike platform.
Responding to the edit regarding its payload, it would be very nice if it did get the extra kit it ought to have.
I mean, the AAM center pylon isn’t that efective anymore as far as It goes on the F1 200 but it is an extra missile.
RWR I didn’t know about tbf
It’s supposed to be up there with the laser guided, or TV guided I believe AGMs
Have you used it recently? It holds up surprisingly well on account of how slow it is in the case of the IR one. Surprisingly, much of the time flares pass out of its view before it’s maneuvered adequately to chase them. It’s quite handy at forcing faster targets to bleed speed.
I just use the fuel tank in the center pylon and run 2 530Fs and 2 magic 2s
Fair enough, I carry the missile on account of it’s usefulness against particularly annoying muppets.
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yeah fair enoughmman
The CT cannot use guided weapons alone, it cannot guide them itself and therefore requires buddy lasing (for TV-guided weapons, France has never had any so I don’t know what weapons could be added)
Its current armament is quite complete (regarding the load it can use alone), the only things missing are the BAP100, BAT120, BGL66 and Durandal. Some bomb payload are also inaccurate if I remember correctly.
Otherwise the big difference between the F1C and the F1C200/F1CT irl concerns the carrying of certain jamming/countermeasure pods, the F1C is limited to the Phimat (maybe the BOZ-103) while the other variants can also carry the Barax and the Barracuda (The F1C can probably carry the Barracuda but I can’t find any sources about it)
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