Should the Grom-1 be added back in the march update? yes or no

Sim could really use CBU-105.

Not remotely convinced brimstones would be as potent in ground with their correct guidance as Gaijin suspects. They really should just bite the bullet and resolve it, if it is broken, immediately focus on counters, if it isn’t, oh well.

Reading their “explanation” of why they think full strength Brimstones would be too OP to me reads like they were entirely and purely looking at the LOAL mode, where they could be rippled off without line of sight and they would find their own targets. Obviously that would be too strong, but they also have a LOBL mode which would be fine.

They could also have made LOAL without IFF to punish wanton use of it, I’m sure we wouldn’t gamble with it

True, could have been done

All that is very cool and interesting, but ultimately it all comes down to the simple fact that as soon as one researches the fullback and grom 1’s he can grind pretty much infinite RP and SL (mostly in ASB) with near-zero risk, near-zero APM and brain usage (therefore rather easily automated) and, given how useful actions work, notably good (if not outright exceptional) efficency. Maybe less so in ARB, but the general idea is the same. Not even to mention event grind (see - rocket F-111’s rushing airfields and make it worse, a lot worse). And we cant have that. Simple as, really.

If it were literally anything else, any other reason, say general balance - by that logic, would we have 38MT’s? And we for sure do.

ofc why not, gbu53 just with ir seeker would still be very good, the benefits of the gbu 53 vs the maverik is stark. even though gbu53 are slow, u can oversaturate pantsir campers(something maverik fails)
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Oversaturation huh.

You know what else would oversaturate AA?

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what are us agm counters to the kh38 exept agm84E slam or agm84h/k ?

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On the extreme side

AGM-158A/B/C
CBU-105

On the more reasonable side

AGM-130C
GBU-53
AGM-154A/B/C

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since people are talking about the grom-1 again they should bring it back tomorrow and wait and see till the next big update to see if it should stay or get tweak in the game since i sill think it will be find to add in game

Nothing has changed since it was removed.

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so then why not they added it back it wont break the game then

Because they were stupidly OP in ARB/ASB and nothing has been changed. The gamemodes are exactly the same.

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Aside from the fact that kh38 achieves the same effective range now (grom could technically go further but you’d time out the missile at any worthwhile ranges that can’t be targeted by current 38) with close enough of a warhead weight to make grom 1 dubiously better even in the best case scenario.

As it stands, Grom 1 could easily come back and very little would change. Aside from making the su 34 slightly less dead and dull. The only real reason to oppose it at the moment is it being a redundant weapon in the face of current 38 ML, however, it would open up 1 pylon to be freed of an ML in favour of an AAM or other munition as the payload weight would shift just barely enough to not require all available pylons for base destruction.

Id still be concerned about them destroying bases cross map in ASB and just abusing it like they did when the Su-34 was new. Maybe with its BR increase, that will become mitigated, but still… The fundemental reason why it was removed in teh first place hasnt really changed. For teh sake of fairness. Should come with Taurus and Storm Shadow, etc

If in sim it has gone up to face what it does in RB, then there should be no issue intercepting it well before it gets within launch range. Especially if it isn’t currently using 38MLs to do the same, as they would effectively do the same with their current modeling. You’d get at most an extra 20kms unless they increased the guidance time on grom 1.

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In the 13.7 bracket, it will face the exact same aircraft it did on introduction (Gripen, F-15Cs, etc etc)

How much base damage do the KH-38s actually do?

the su-34br already went up from 13.3-13.7 what should it go up to 14.3 and just get merk it has no HMD to counter any aircraft in a dogfight tho and who cares about destroying base let the people who want t do the 13.0 and above in sim is just fox-3s spam on the map so it wont matter tho no one can bomb with out getting killed bye aim-120 r-77 rb-99 pl-15 ect ect all they need to do it add a aa system to make it to intercept rockets bombs and missiles simple as that

u need 7 kh-38s to 6 to destroy a base if i remember right or its 7