F16A varients should be 12.0 because they only get fox2 which is a no chance against Su30 or 12.7 hornet
no you would not trust me.
And what does that means? could it mean maybe players who dont buy planes are just salty? I mean how many planes gone thrue same stuf as SU-30s are going now and did it change anything, yes it made more problems. Again claiming for example Su30MKK is somehoew superiro with one of trashiest radar ever is just redicilous, only thing OP is amount of missiles for, again one of most boring things in game, climb, drop missles, notch, go back to airfiled, repeat .
Alright, so I assume you have no issue with “hero/ace units” such as the IS-2 “revenge” being the same BR as their TT counter parts, so why do you insist the Su-30s should be lower BR then their counter parts?
Honestly I would be completely fine with the SL/RP bonuses being increased if they go up, but they are hands down the best 13.3s by a long shot, aside from maybe a few specific situations (hell I can mog a raf in a gun fight in my F-2ADTW, that doesn’t make the raf a 13.0 plane).
As I mentioned previously I don’t subscribe to the “wallet warrior” hate, I have enough premiums that would be highly hypocritical of me, and I also thing massive decompression is a better solution to the BR shell game Gaijin keeps playing… none of that changes that the Su-30s are too low BR for their capabilities.
Yep, but then again, when it is on top tier , 11.0 is crying that it is not fair.
Biggest issue on 12.3 is that there is not so much planes on that br.
You never get a “good” mm in there.
Personal opinion is to swap br 1 to 0.7 on mm, and teams would be lot more mixed.
the ultimate method is 1 kill and 2 bases for 30k RP each game but only bringing enough for 1 base then going to airfeild and getting rearmed to get the 2nd base while you are your team hunt down the last guy it worked twice so far in 1 session for me this makes any premuim like the hornet with light fire bombs peak
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no its what gajin could have done but didn’t now we have 12.7 vs 13.0 vs 13.3 and as you would know 13.3 is winning
See SU30s was never a problem, the problem is BR bracket overall, cant fix it by moving 1 premium to higher BR.
The SU-30 doesn’t have a tech tree counterpart at 13.7. It’s closest tech tree counterpart is the J-11A. The J-11A has better flight performance and worse RWR and a BR of 13.3.
what would the max BR of 15.0 really fix but changing things buy 0.3 you would need 20.0 BR to save every jet but I do expect the biggest BR changes next update for the reasons of ECM and 5th gen before the end of the year but that’s my guess right now complaining about what gajins already knowns wont do much
You have no idea what you are talking about because you are bad at the game.
This just proves my take above.
You have been provided with exstensive explanation of how and why Su-30 is:
- A strong plane
- Undertiered
- Will be fine 0.3 BR higher
By players who are clearly have better understanding a experience of the game. At this point you are either not engaging in good faith or having a severe skill issue and going defensive about it.
You are yet to provide any adequate substantiation to why jets from 12.3 - 12.7 with no Fox3 missiles should see a 13.7 plane (Premium Su-30s are literally Su-27SM that is 2 missiles short) on a constant basis.
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Ahh yeah it was, It was pretty OP at 13.3 when max BR was 14.3, then the 14.3s went up and the Su-30s did not
Which was 13.7 until right before the premium Su-30s where released… go figure…
It also only has one DL- channel which mostly negates it’s TWS radar
The radar is completely fine
The best 13.7 has the exact same radar lmao and it should also be 14.0.
Radar was also buffed recently.
You get hmd, IRST and on the MK2, basic nctr which is not a common feature.
Missile kit is the most important aspect of top tier level aircraft
And the premium flankers have the best one of the br easily.
FM is not a major importance, all you need is to be capable of maintaining energy and speed at higher altitudes as well as having good accel.
Duelling or dogfighting capability is not really important.
The MiG-35 for example is the best dogfighter in the entire game, yet is still a mediocre aircraft in air rb
Defensively the flankers are also fine.
96-98x large caliber countermeasures is a good loadout for the br considering what most get is 45-90 countermeasures in a medium-large mix.
Top tier air gameplay isn’t just “spawn, shoot, notch, re-arm and repeat”
You’re either just oversimplifying it way too much or, if you’re actually just playing like this, playing like a terrible player.
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Do you know which aircraft is performing the best out of all 13.3s rn?
Sorted by KS.
Tbf it’s a little inflated since nobody plays it in grb but then again few 13.3 planes have a use there
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Exactly. But as I suggested two more F3’s could be removed as an interim measure. I’m sure everyone would be ok with leaving the better J-11A alone since it’s not a premium.
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Oh so you think everyone in game are on same skill level? LOL
Oh so you think its impossible to beat a fox-3 missiles with 12.3-12.7? and you talk about “being bad at game”.
Its equally as powerful as the premium flankers
They move up, it moves up
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I have absolutely no idea. But from my personal perspective the F-16 ADF is hands down best 13.3 since the AMRAAM changes. Before that it was the Kfir C. 10.
Im not saying go round in circles
Just keep enough speed so you dont end up like the flanker with no energy.
Keep fox 3 in notch. When close enough pull vert notch and get over the incoming jet (where he has come from)
Wait till flanker turns back, if fox 2 is shot turn directly to missile while still managing speed (if fox 3 repeat step 1) and last time under/ over his jet again= dead flanker every time
Its a really easy jet to fight - the hard part is making it this far- why i lobby for more CMs
When i say if the flanker doesnt rate i mean atleast manage his turns/ mirror the f16s rate somewhat - and not just pull and dump all its energy to get missile away- which happens every time