Should Pantsir be nerf?

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You said you can’t ignore them at any moment.

into what? 2S38? Gepards?

Many of them are.

Sure they do. I run my Gepard 1A2 all the time with my FlaRakRad and it does extremely well. People don’t expect IR missiles as much as Radar ones.

I love my Strela-10. My most favourite SAM system. To 5 km absolute death zone.

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Like Soviet main I would like to have Strela-10M4 with thermal and 9K333. I know that we dont need that but still :D

That’s what you said and I’m trying to tell you how easily you can ignore AAs by utilizing LoS limitations.

Behind a hill ?
Not like many maps aren’t bowl shaped with high terrain all around the ground battlefield.

Many offer you ample hard cover and some are basically shaped like a bowl, where you can break LoS at like 2-3km away which is funny.

This is why helicopters are almost impossible to kill, as they can just pop out behind a hill and retreat instantly.

They surely don’t as their maximum range is like 3-5km and aircraft at top tier can outrange them multiple times.

People misusing their equipment is a whole different story.

Then put that into practice. My survival rate is extremely high in CAS. Hills do not exist in such quantity to be used as the basis of your gameplan in every match.

I don’t find helicopters hard to kill. Nearly all of them have to stay within line of sight to aim at you and they can’t move their helicopter much due to sight limitations.

If a jet passes over you, it’s dead. There are no missile warnings for IR missiles in Ground RB unless you have an MAW.

Even MAW wont help if you have photocontrast.

I assume you mean the Strela’s weird mode and I don’t know how to use it or what it even really does. I haven’t played the Strela much.

All I know is it supposedly does well against Helicopters.

Yes that. Its not IR guidance but optical which work on contrast between targer and sky. Its absolutely unflarable. You can only try outmaneuver it or fly really low where photocontrast have problem recognize target. Disadvantages of this guidance also is that it doesnt work in bad weather or in night.

That would make sense why I can never dodge the damn thing.

Thats why I love it so much :D

And now everyone’s got a Strela except for the one nation that needs SPAA desperately, Israel.

Japan have also SAM with photocontrast and that system is ever deadlier. I think Type 81 it is.

I wasn’t aware the Type 81 had that system, though I knew it was deadly.

Many enemies I’ve faced when using AAs did just that, which is why I know it’s effective.

Plenty of top tier helicopters have FnF so their time of exposure is minimal. They also come with MAWs which give them ample time to drop down 10m and hide. Not to mention some have more ordnance than AAs and can replenish easier, so in the battle of attrition they’re certainly winning.

Maybe in case of Strela, but Stingers aren’t good against fast targets.
All of this ignores the fact that you have no reason to pass over the battlefield when your plane has ordnance capable of engaging targets at well beyond 5km of range.

In AB and GRB the type 81 is deadly but in SB without third-person is the system not deadly.

Is there for 81 some limited view or something?

In SB the view is still okay while you don’t have the third-person like in AB and GRB depend the map and op CAS can be annoying to shoot it down.

Like I know about that but you have camera on top of vehicles so usually its not big difference.

You need to third-person view to watch your surroundings when you start moving from your spawn or detect any dangers that you can’t see.