Should Pantsir be nerf?

Yes that. Its not IR guidance but optical which work on contrast between targer and sky. Its absolutely unflarable. You can only try outmaneuver it or fly really low where photocontrast have problem recognize target. Disadvantages of this guidance also is that it doesnt work in bad weather or in night.

That would make sense why I can never dodge the damn thing.

Thats why I love it so much :D

And now everyone’s got a Strela except for the one nation that needs SPAA desperately, Israel.

Japan have also SAM with photocontrast and that system is ever deadlier. I think Type 81 it is.

I wasn’t aware the Type 81 had that system, though I knew it was deadly.

Many enemies I’ve faced when using AAs did just that, which is why I know it’s effective.

Plenty of top tier helicopters have FnF so their time of exposure is minimal. They also come with MAWs which give them ample time to drop down 10m and hide. Not to mention some have more ordnance than AAs and can replenish easier, so in the battle of attrition they’re certainly winning.

Maybe in case of Strela, but Stingers aren’t good against fast targets.
All of this ignores the fact that you have no reason to pass over the battlefield when your plane has ordnance capable of engaging targets at well beyond 5km of range.

In AB and GRB the type 81 is deadly but in SB without third-person is the system not deadly.

Is there for 81 some limited view or something?

In SB the view is still okay while you don’t have the third-person like in AB and GRB depend the map and op CAS can be annoying to shoot it down.

Like I know about that but you have camera on top of vehicles so usually its not big difference.

You need to third-person view to watch your surroundings when you start moving from your spawn or detect any dangers that you can’t see.

For E2K and RFL I call it 1km, only within gun range, for 15 16 I call it ~15km at least, and a bit down to 11.7 we are seeing F111 and TRG. 20km death sphere for them.

You are wrong. Pantsir doesn’t need to be nerfed, but all nations should get SPAAs similar with pantsir or better one.

Yes it should
Pantsir outrange nato cas with a big gap exept for hammers that are slow and very ez to intercept
Nato needs to get pantsir equivlants cuz russian cas is on oar with pantsir

Huh?
I just said russia is op how did u get i said russia is bad?
And how the fact that i main israel is related?

If a nation too strong to the point that it is bad then nothing else. The fact that you play one nation and no more just prove people point that you don’t have much experience to talk about other nation. Especially when you haven’t played it

11.7 america
11.7 germany
10.3 russia
12.0 israel
Did u played israel?

What?

I played 3 out of 4 nation that you listed. Add Japan and Brit to that list. You are not special , I can literally ask the same thing , brit is in an even worse position than Isreal. Your point being ? Hell even Japan ground not getting anything new after a good amount of major update. Why you gotta try to flex your stuff here ?

If a nation being too Op then it is bad for the game and Russia is far from being OP. Stop the cope bro

I just showed i play more nations then just israel

Not at all chally is better then merkava
Britian has adats and now uf2k so great cas

Got sub tree lamo
And about to get sub tree for ground as well

Meanwhile tons of tons of threads on russia cas destoying top tier
Pantsir being op as well 2s38 and bmp2m
Very intresting that so many ppl angry about russia u rly think its a coincidence?
Dude open ur bias eyes