And you should know that the R-73 is the main reason why the Mig-29G in Germany is 13.0 and not the same BR as the 12.7 Mig-29.
The missile alone justifies the BR increase over a standard R-60M.
It’s kinda terrible these days. I can usually just dump a single flare to get them off my tail. They’re not nearly as resistant as they used to be when first added to aircraft.
No, but the Kurnass 2000 is a worse platform than the F-16A and shares a similar IR missile performance. And the F-16A is already considered poor by most people.
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So you can understand why a plane as fast and potent as the Mig-23, which also gets R-24R missiles would end up being about 12.7 if that happened.
They have the same IRCCM, Gatewidth with a 0.75° view.
I can tell you from experience that they do not handle flares the same.
The R-73 is extremely easy to flare. The Magic 2 can be very resistant.
there isnt much of a reason for that, the mig 21 bison is 12.3 with a better radar and similar missiles.
similar, but less and slower.
Like it would have ± same armament and better flying performance like MiG-21bison but worse avionics and much less countermeasures. Also 21bison then should go to 12.7.
I have AA experience and had experienced LoS issues frequently. As I said, both sides of the engagement can easily see this.
Why should I show my stat card ? It’s a publicly available information and anyone interested can do it for themselves.
That isn’t my tactic and no, I argued that your claim that AAs will constantly breathe down your neck is false, as LoS is a mechanic in the game that can easily be achieved on our maps.
Well, most people include the lack of skill that got the F-16A moved down to begin with.
Not only that but F-20A is also Kurnass 2000 equivalent.
Obviously F-20A is better in a dogfight, but F-20A also lacks countermeasures and weapon mounts.
It can either bring the Kurnass 2000 loadout or the Mirage 2000 loadout but it’s 9Ls instead of Magic 2s.
F-16A has the flight performance, and a bit more countermeasures.
how less? they both would have 4 missiles and the r27r is overall similar while the r27t is better due to the smaller IFOV, not to mention the hmd…
That’s because of different launch profiles, if either is at max-G with a target barely in its gimble it will struggle. This happens more often to R-73s because that’s its typical launch profile.
If you launch both a 1.5km perfectly rear aspect the only difference is the Magic 2 will get there faster.
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Most of those aircraft should go up in BR. The Mig-21 and Mig-23 series should not be the same BR as aircraft like the Kfir Canard, which has 2 rear-aspect missiles and no functional radar. The RWR is also insufficient to even pick up a R-24R.
You dodge an aircraft and become suppressed. You dodge an SPAA and you become suppressed. Both result in a high likelihood of you being shot down. If you’re sucking the ground, you have few options to dodge.
Even if you manage to dodge an SPAA missile on your attack run, what stops the second? You’ve bled your speed and they’re not likely to mess up again.
Not to mention that not every missile is a radar-guided one. Stingers from Ozelots or AD series and Strelas are still very dangerous and will catch you even out of line of sight while escaping from view.
Pantsir should not be nerfed, but its unfortunate how blatantly gaijin has and is ignoring every other nations top tier anti aircraft weapons.
Countering SAM systems in this game is laughably easy, killing them with GPS guided bombs is even easier.
For once Gaijin should focus on SAM systems and making them good rather than more and more CAS powercreep, especially with USSR.
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Lack of skill may be one thing, but the Mig-29 at a similar BR has R-27ER missiles. The F-16A is stuck with a handful of Aim-9L missiles and those aren’t nearly comparable.
But it gains a radar missile, which is extremely valuable. IR missiles are incredibly easy to dodge.
I’m not suggesting the Kurnass is bad, but its BR seems unfair based on other aircraft at that BR. If anything, most other aircraft need to move up.
Btw I bought yesterday Su-34 so I have to expect mass murders of ground vehicles? :D
Israel is especially needing this treatment. Their best SPAA is either a Chapparal or a M163 with only four stingers.
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Yes. It’s incredibly free to do lol
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