Man, both F-84F and B-57 is doing their intended job.
‘Start the fire at some random jungle.’
Do you really think that Gaijin needs to nerf F-84F because F-84F mains dishonor your B-57?
You sound like the other guy who claimed [F-4EJ need to be nerfed because I can’t bomb in my J-7D] before.
Yes, I do.
I’d consider the later F-104 variants like the S and G to be fighter bombers, similar to the Phantom. Afaik they were used like that IRL, and it’s what they are great at in WT.
Plus, that’s mostly all that they are good for considering how bad their flight model is. They’re all overtiered by 0.3, and the ASA is an 11.3 plane at 12.0.
you should look into the reasons why, and look into how effective they were in this forced role…
really?
Trying to advocate for balance changes based on how players play the planes and not by their actual performance is childish and won’t lead anywhere.
Correction: It will lead to them not stealing bases.
Every F-104 and MiG-21 which are higher than 9.3BR should be buffed to 9.3BR
because everybody plays it as bomber so A2A capability won’t matter. (No, I am kidding)
I can’t wait to see MiG-21 Bison at 9.3BR.
Dude… Both F-84F(Strike Aircraft) and B-57(Jet Bomber) share the same role in the game.
Destroy bases and throw some leads to ground targets.
It isn’t similar to MiG-23ML(dedicated interceptor) steals base from F-111F(Strike Aircraft)
check the title of topic and get a grip man.
No, give everything more napalm and add thermobarics
The sense of entitlement is strong in some people here.^^
“All red bases belong to me. You may take what I leave”. I often say this quickly in game, so that others can stick their entitlement up their whatever.
What did I say wrong?
Really? F-86 series are one of most pampered american jet, which Gaijin kept under BR’d shamelessly nearly a year.
Naming the small number of US jets that perform badly does not somehow disappear the massive amount that stomp.
Read what I just said to quartas
Maybe Gaijin is biasing ‘some selected, famous jets in US’ to create conflict between players and prevent them from seeing real problems.
You disagree when other guys claim ‘US is most pampered TT’
But some other guys will disagree with you when they see some fancy jet that’s been treated too well in the US TT.
Then see, we argue with each other here. while forgetting the main topic was.
Man, really?
You must’ve joking. right?
You are totally OT by now imho.
They’re fine, but none of them are nearly competitive. AV-8C is heavily outclassed by the Hunter F.58, T-2 and Ayit.
F3H-2 is imo a one-trick pony that can’t really do much more than snipe unaware players from 5 miles out in headons.
F-104 was competitive when it was still the fastest plane at its BR
F-100D is good, but still heavily outclassed by things like Mig-21
A-10A is very good, but only because players are dumb enough to try dogfight it.
It’s hard to be competitive when everyone else can control whether they engage you or not, with absolutetly no say on your part.
That’s a very passive way of playing though. Competitive jets tend to be the ones that people actually fear.
Yeah, if Gajin put atleast half as much effort into applying the Harrier bug reports as they put into trailers, it could very well be one of Warthunder’s best planes.
Rather than a timer make it an SP system like ground RB. Instead of waiting 5 minutes the fighter actually has to earn points through activity, enough to be able to land and rearm with a bomb load.
You’re trying to complicate something that’s very simple. T-2 flies better than the Harrier, end of story.
Whether a plane is a strike aircraft or not doesn’t matter in ARB. All that matters is their A2A performance, because > We’re discussing ARB <
If we scale the SP cost, it sounds like a good idea.
Reason I’d say we need to scale it is because sometimes it becomes a massive stomp and you don’t get much of an opportunity, but the final person refuses to engage and just run constantly. One example would be someone in say a starfighter around early supersonics/late subsonics.
I guess the russia suffers because they have all these horrible dogfighters
Buff russia when, they have planes that are easy to dunk on in a dogfight.