Should napalm be removed from any plane classified as a fighter?

What does the F-84F have, compared to the F-86A-5 in ARB.

  • higher BR
  • worse manoeuvrability
  • Air spawns (only for biased rank 5 version on US TT)
  • some fancy bombs which are good for nothing. You will not reach base unless you fly and nosedive with the US TT version.

And

++++ Fancy Vietnam-war style camo, which reminds me F-105D.
(Again, Only for biased rank 5 version on US TT. XD)

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Doesn’t mean it’s not annoying af tho. It’s normally only premium players that ignore me marking bases, but F-84Fs do it too. Besides, If Gajin increased its thrust and decreased its energy loss, along with moving it to 7.7, it’d be a actually decent plane.

So you want to nerf the F-84F because they didn’t yield the base for you?

Come on man, it is dead plane now outside the US after “Sons of Attila” update.
Get a grip.

And I am partially likes the second idea.

Oh also, they should return the CCIP. Claiming its guns didn’t have CCIP irl because its sight is the same one used on the F-100D, and the F-100D doesn’t have CCIP is complete bs.

If you want it back, find the source and write a bug report about it.
Then, a Few centuries later, gaijin will reimplement it.

Also, further discussion about F-84F’s CCIP might be off topic. so we need to end here.
Fair?

It’s not annoying. You’re just complaining about one of the worst jets at the BR because you love to have terrible takes.

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An M22 would be one of the worst tanks to bring to 11.7. Does that mean it wasn’t annoying to the Leopard 2 players who I spent 5+ minutes sitting behind them, destroying their engine the second they finished repairing it? ofc not. Being an effective vehicle isn’t required to be annoying

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“392nd Bomb Group B-24s drop napalm over Royan (France), 14 April 1945. Note what appears to be a Pathfinder radar ball on the closest aircraft and the bomb trailing marking smoke in the lower right of the frame.”

Nerf the damage wouldn’t change the playerbase mindset when they see easy way to grind. The only way to force people is impact the reward. My suggestion is buff kill reward , massively nerf base reward toward fighter while buffing reward for strike aircraft and alike. Also fixing map so fighter have an incentive to escort their fellow strike enjoyer in ARB and protecting them and if not it is also fine.

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But if you can only damage half a base, you will also end up with about half the reward, even less if noone finishes your plate.

  1. F-104 other than A and C ones are not a fighter. Although I don’t have it myself, I can imagine its terrible turn rate and its speed isn’t that superior in higher BR. They are bomber and are free food for the real fighters.

  2. The most important usage of premium vehicles should be for grinding the tech tree, otherwise no one will buy them. Considering this, every premium plane which is not “superior OP” has full reason to bomb. (Like the Mig-23ML without MTI; Mirage F1C …). As an example, one kinda OP plane is Mirage 2000CS4 which I’m using to grind france. If I get a premium like CS4 which I can often reliably gain 2~3 kills I can quit bombing.

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Come to think of it, the F-104C is indeed more of a bomber than a fighter.

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so reduce ways to play the game and force playstyle

No? Not how that works at all. They are all purebred fighters.

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No, they’re more of bombers. They suck at pretty much everything else.

They are fighters. Purebred at that.

Well, Lockheed in the USA scammed allies for selling purebred interceptors as ‘well-made multirole’

Maybe F-104S/S.ASA can be considered as a bomber, sadly. :/
If we compared to counterparts in the same BR which developed later than 1950s.

Still, despite that. it is nonsense if we claim that we need to change their class into Attack Aircraft or Bomber.

Yeah, how dare players do the challenges the game gives them?

Last night my buddy had a destroy 6 bases challenge he wanted to complete for a special order. He tried changing it, only to get bomber missions and strike aircraft missions, of which he doesn’t fly any. Instead of spending another 500k to get a better challenge, he opted to use his F4 to bomb and then A2A fight.

He did better than most “dedicated fighters” on the team anyways. Removing napalm won’t stop the game’s design, or base bombing in general from people. The system itself is rigged in favor of it.

Do I think bombing is useless in general at high tiers? Absolutely. That doesn’t change the fact that this is actively encouraged by the game itself, and I won’t blame the players for that reason.

Even in game if you use them as bombers, in most cases you are simply saying either you’re not good enough or too lazy to make them work as fighters when they will reward you more for doing that.

But like, in all reality though, they’re bombers. It’s like calling the Crommy V a medium tank. It might be CALLED a medium tank, but REALLY it’s a light tank, and one of the fastest at its BR.