Should Leopard 2A4 get DM33?

More like 11.3, there is an M1A1 with M829A1 and 5 sec reload at 11.3

that got moved to 11.7

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it’s 11.7 and still arguably under BR’d lol.
How is it comparable to the ariete for example or a CR2.

Could easily be 12.0 the M1A1 tbh

CR2 gets really good turret armour, much better hull-down survivability, spall liners, gen 2 thermals, and hull armour (in a downtier).
M1A1 is definitely better in flanks but CR2 is great for long-range or hull-down maps.

Ariete is pretty good atm (after the decompression, 5s reload buff, and access to DM53, and now the small armour buff), but I agree that M1A1 is generally better.

Though the Ariete’s armour is still abysmal enough to be reasonable at 11.3, where the IPM1 is.

Id still takw the m1a1 over it long range tbh, though standard Cr2 is 11.7 now adays.

The optics on the 2 are about the same are they not ? Been a decent while since i used ny CR2s tbh got about 700 games between tbem.all so it gets fuzzy.

Aye going fron my ariete to the abrams is just flat upgrade bar the slight loss of pen but m829A1 is still one of the better rounds in game lol.

Id it lost the Dm53 it never fired ans got its real ammo definitely

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Gen 2 thermals are a lot more usable than gen 1.

At long-range, you better hope you don’t get shot in the M1A1 but you can depend on your armour with the Chally 2 fairly often from my experience.

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Cr2 for me the armours never really worked man, managed to get my breach shot out at 2.2km twice in a row 😂 maybe just my usage of it, but i vastly prefer the m1a1 overall compared to CR2

Well I mean getting your breech shot instead of dying to ammo rack / getting your crew taken out is exactly what you’d want right?

Maybe but usually in the A1 i try move my ass before thaf happens.
Reckon it’s because i know the CR2 has some.armour i hang around longer than i should.

Ngl man with the 3 earlier CR2 models.im not great, the 12.7 ones are more my pace, find them.more easy to use

I think the 12.7 Challies are way too overtiered.

They should be 12.0 - 12.3 if the 11.7 Challies are at 11.7…

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yeah u have a good round show the vehicle stats on u profile…

What xD ? the things at a 60 percent winrate for me with a 1.5Kd or such.

The standard M1 Is the only one I’ve got which isn’t decent as it was the first 10,3 I got back in the day and was running around slinging heat n crap at people without knowing the game.
5 years ago.

EDIT: 62 percent win rate with a 1.8 KD so yeah.
better than you with a 1.6KD and a 60 percent win rate.

What was the point in your comment again?

You’ve barely touched USA lol, I’ve 1036 games between my abrams alone.

show the vehicle stats no the best mach wit m1…

i literally did lol my M1 KVT stats are better than yours, higher win rate and KD
look above.

oh so u have 1000 games with all abrams

yes I do, as well as I have 930 between my leopards.

I’ve over 6 thousand games at rank 7 and above, between my 9 nations.

You’re a german main who’s barely touched any othertree commenting on the M1 Abrams ? because I chinned someone saying the tanks not that bad.

you asked me to show my stats on the abrams.

you brought up it was just one good game which it’s clearly not as I do better with my M1s than you.
“yeah u have a good round show the vehicle stats on u profile…” saying this clearly to try have a dig lol, you should of checked my vehicle stats before popping off.

I mentioned the amount of games I have in abrams as the comment was about that, not about the leoprards.

If you’d like to stay on topic, the 2A4 with DM33 would easily be 11.0, same idea as the MSC.

where? u have 930 maches with leopard?


Yes I have 930 matches between my rank 7 leopards?

You’ve completely ignored my previous points but and are going on about absolutely nothing here lol.

What’s even the point in your comments? please enlighten me.
What information are you trying to convay, rather poorly I may add.

what is u k/d with u premium leopard 2?

the whole meaning of you clicking here is that you are such a great king with the Abrams kvt. when it is massed = with 0