Should gaijin remove the spawn protection from the vehicle after the first shot is fired even if the vehicle is still in spawn? for example when SPAA starts shooting at you their protection will be removed and you can attack it to protect yourself
Edit: I meant like for CAS so my missiles would actually do something instead of me getting sniped from other side of the map
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No,
if youre spawn camping someone they also need to be able to defend against you
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No. Spawn protection should not run out at all if you don’t move. If people are stupid enough to spawn camp they can all be free kills for you.
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NGL. im ok with that for SPAA revenge spawns
“protect yourself”. LOL
i mean like CAS because the SPAA shoots me down from the other side of the map but my missiles won’t damage them because of spawn protection
Nah, I think spawn protection is working just fine the way it is now. When I’m on the winning team I just wait behind cover for the enemies spawn protection to wear off before pushing further into their spawn.
When I’m on the losing team, I’ll often keep spawning in vehicles to try for a kill or two. It hardly matters because repair costs are tied to time alive, takes 5 minutes to get to the full repair cost. You are very unlikely to even live past 1 minute so the risk is very much worth the reward of an extra kill or two.
Works in favor of both sides. I’m perfectly happy with the current state of spawn protection. Both the current time limit of spawn protection, and how it falls off faster if you start moving.
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A 1 minute spawn prot would be fine so long as SPAA loses spawn prot.
Problem is, this would affect ALL vehicles in all modes. So newly spawned vehicles without long range missiles would be quite vulnerable. Players just won’t respawn = ODL.
Gaijin painted themselves into a corner by …
- Not having maps scale with the offensive weapons introduced in higher BRs and …
- Introducing weapon systems that can target and kill enemies from ridiculous distances. I mean, AGM-65D with a launch range of 23km? What’s the largest map size in WT? 4km x 4km?
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Fuck no. Until 9.0, planes have EVERY advantage over SPAA. And its designed that way.
-Planes have a map the size of a postage stamp to look for enemies. SPAAs have to search the skies and hit a fast moving target.
-Planes kill SPAA faster than SPAA kill planes. Burst mass of planes almost always exceeds SPAA and planes can often take a hit while spaa is 1/2 ammo and 1/2 bad crew placement.
-Planes can’t have internal ammo or suspended ordinance detonated until dropped.
-SPAA don’t get non-tracer belts, so they are revealed when they fire.
-Plane pilots are absurdly durable. Shoot a plane cockpit with a tank round and the majority of times they will continue flying with fuselage damage.
-APHE mostly fails to fuse on planes, meaning APHE rounds just act like AP.
-heavy bombers can bomb from orbit.
-planes with targeting computers can bomb from orbit.
-NORD or Bullpup can be fired from outside SPAA range.
-planes can suicide bomb and nearly guarentee a kill.
Essentially planes have to play poorly, get greedy, or get targeted by multiple AA to die without getting kills while most AA have <.5kdr vs air. Its truly sad how hand held pilots need to be in this game in a game mode called GROUND forces.
Oh no, planes can’t spawn camp with immunity. boo hoo. Go play your own game mode.
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great more spawn camping, yeah no dont need that
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Are you guys intentionally forgetting that there are many maps where the spawn zones literally have line of sight to capture points?
I don’t know about you, but I don’t think it’s fair at all that I get shot at by invincible tanks from their spawns just because I dared to move into a capture point…
But that’s a trash map design issue, not inherently a spawnprotection one.
actually this is wrong, at least from air to air you can shoot off other people’s weapons
Had missiles shot off their pylons in duels before
Or of course just take off the wing they’re mounted on
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no
now this post can be closed
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Solution: Stop trying to spawnkill
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No
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No.
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so indead of gimping spawn protection to the point its useless against campers, why not fix that map in particular? seems easier imo.
Spawn protection isnt the problem, the maps are
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My comment was aimed at takes like these:
Pretending that you can only ever be screwed up by invincible tanks if “you are spawnkilling” and ignoring all the maps where spawns have direct lines of fire into capture points and even enemy spawns themselves…
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How do you think verticality got removed from Second Battle:
You know… I wonder how many map issues are actually reported. For the lot of complaining we do, have any of us actually bug reported a map?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder