It depends a lot on the matchmaking. In full uptiers you clearly only have a support role and won’t carry the team. But that’s ok, because the 13.0 Machmaker is ok in my opinion. In downtiers the plane will do very well. I recently started with the F-4 ICE to research the Eurofighter and played a few games with the SU-27 and J-11 and I had fun even despite FOX-3 matchmakings.
So if you’re looking for a Talisman plane and you don’t have the J-7D, I’d go with the J-11 rather than the J-8. After the Flightmodel buff, I’m really having fun with my Flankers. I even put a Talisman on my SU-27SM to grind the upcoming planes like SU-30 and so on. I wouldn’t have done that if Gaijin hadn’t changed the flight model.
I have a J-7D, but it seems to me that rank 9 will be added soon and it will become useless.There is still an option to buy a mascot on the j-11a, but I’m scared, the terrible radar on 13.7 is probably very painful. Maybe j-11 or j-8f better choice
I do not see rank 9 before the end of 2025. But I could be wrong. It’s sad that the J-11A is, let’s say, “not really good” at the moment.
I will put a Talisman on my J-10 when the sale is in May 25. That plane is awesome to grind the upcoming planes.
I am confident of the ninth rank in the February update, when the 14.0 planes will be added for most nations. And I really don’t want to wait until May. If al-khalid is not available on December 26, I will be incredibly disappointed with the snail. Forcing me to buy tank for the September update in May is crazy. What should I choose for the mascot, J-11, J-11a or J-8F?
My choice would be J-11-> J-11A → J8F. With the bad radar and RWR the J-11A is rough at 13.7/14.0. And the J-8 only has 4 missiles.
- 4 pl-8, 2 pl-12.
Sorry my bad. 6 of course. But your IR missiles do not even have IRCCM at that BR. Choose wisely. :-)
Yeah, J11A just sucks, I can’t even seem to gather up enough courage to spend 1.5 million SL to buy it RN. J10 is fantastic though, easily one of the best top tier as long as u do expect the PL12 performance to be worse than AMRAAM and have that in mind. But with J11B/J15 coming in I really would like to see a more competitive and realistic Pl12.
PL8 is doable cause u can almost use it as a shorter range R27ET and throw it at 4km and they won’t realise until it hits. PL12s are good, HMD + PL8 doable and quite nice avionics, just wondering if it might do better if we get earlier J8s such as J8H, with same everything but PL11 only, might do much better.
Pl-11 its just aspide, like in j-8B
Yeah but say it is 12.3, with good radar and avionics, quite nice actually.
I mean aside isn’t half bad anyways, quite high acceleration and speed, great for engagements within 10km.
I think they might add pl-8B or PL-5E2. Damn, why is it so difficult? I don’t seem to want to play against Fox3 on a su27, but I don’t seem to want to play with only two normal missiles on a j-8F. If he had a pl-5E2, he would have bought a talisman for it without hesitation.
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We honestly need to bring this back to light, that being the absolutely ridiculous BR placement of the J-11A at 13.7.
The SU-27SM which also sits at 13.7 recently received the AL-31F-M1 engines during the latest major patch, this officially makes the aircraft better than the J-11A in almost every single sector yet Gaijin is too scared to move the J-11A down.
With the recent addition of the SU-33, it received the MLU package which includes a new RWR and a MFD in the cockpit, even this aircraft is superior to the J-11A besides missile potency at 13.0, I should also mention it gets an additional 2 pylons making the difference between the J-11A and SU-33 missile wise negligible.
The J-11A seriously needs to move down to 13.3 or the lowest, 13.0. The difference between the J-11 and J-11A are near indescribable minus the “crude” addition of the RVV-AE and the redundant MAWS.
The J-11A is such a forgotten aircraft that even Gaijin forgot to give it the detailed cockpit RWR when modelling the SPO-15 for the SU-27 and other aircraft.
13.7 → 13.3
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What is the difference or is there none?
Is it just the MAWS? (J11A top and J11 bottom)
Edit: They’re the same, sorry I though you were comparing Su-27SM and J-11A
The additional external circle represents the MAWS found on the J-11A, three circles shows that the aircraft also has LWS like found on the Eurofighter.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/6mLWlJOzbR8u
I made a report 6 days ago, it was acknowledged but it’s still incredible that gaijin forgets J11 and J11a
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Well, J-11B Block 2 was passed to the developer, so lets hope it will be added in reasonable timeframe
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Hopefully, the next version will see J11B/J10B that only exists in leaks
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I might not surprised J-11BH from PLANAF instead J-11B (Early) for researchable tree because spec like J-11B Block 2, but J-11BH equipped tailhook
Battle rating 14.0, my guess