Shenyang J-11, J-16, J-15, History, Performance & Discussion

Book i have states T-10K-3

No, T-10K-7.

Can i get a link?

Everything is banal, the T-10K-3 is currently parked in Sukhoi’s LIIDB, in a disarmed state. How could China copy something from it? Ukraine got the T-10K-7, it was China that bought it and it was from it that the J-15 was made

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Looks like T-10K-7 to me.

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all photos of T-10K coded “79”, “69”, “59” are later versions of T-10K7 logically a T-10k coded “89” or higher will probably be a K7

the sources say that it is the T-10K7 which was used for the J15 but it also says that China bought the 2 prototypes the K3 and K7

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K-7

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Thanks, the book is just wrong

The T-10K-7 did not have a tail number under the jurisdiction of the USSR, and in Ukraine it had a tail number No. 03…

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How is the usual su-27 (j-11) on 13.0 playing now? I want to buy a talisman, I feel they will add the ninth rank soon, I need to be safe for the future. Does it make sense? Or J-8F better?

It depends a lot on the matchmaking. In full uptiers you clearly only have a support role and won’t carry the team. But that’s ok, because the 13.0 Machmaker is ok in my opinion. In downtiers the plane will do very well. I recently started with the F-4 ICE to research the Eurofighter and played a few games with the SU-27 and J-11 and I had fun even despite FOX-3 matchmakings.
So if you’re looking for a Talisman plane and you don’t have the J-7D, I’d go with the J-11 rather than the J-8. After the Flightmodel buff, I’m really having fun with my Flankers. I even put a Talisman on my SU-27SM to grind the upcoming planes like SU-30 and so on. I wouldn’t have done that if Gaijin hadn’t changed the flight model.

I have a J-7D, but it seems to me that rank 9 will be added soon and it will become useless.There is still an option to buy a mascot on the j-11a, but I’m scared, the terrible radar on 13.7 is probably very painful. Maybe j-11 or j-8f better choice

I do not see rank 9 before the end of 2025. But I could be wrong. It’s sad that the J-11A is, let’s say, “not really good” at the moment.
I will put a Talisman on my J-10 when the sale is in May 25. That plane is awesome to grind the upcoming planes.

I am confident of the ninth rank in the February update, when the 14.0 planes will be added for most nations. And I really don’t want to wait until May. If al-khalid is not available on December 26, I will be incredibly disappointed with the snail. Forcing me to buy tank for the September update in May is crazy. What should I choose for the mascot, J-11, J-11a or J-8F?

My choice would be J-11-> J-11A → J8F. With the bad radar and RWR the J-11A is rough at 13.7/14.0. And the J-8 only has 4 missiles.

  1. 4 pl-8, 2 pl-12.

Sorry my bad. 6 of course. But your IR missiles do not even have IRCCM at that BR. Choose wisely. :-)

Yeah, J11A just sucks, I can’t even seem to gather up enough courage to spend 1.5 million SL to buy it RN. J10 is fantastic though, easily one of the best top tier as long as u do expect the PL12 performance to be worse than AMRAAM and have that in mind. But with J11B/J15 coming in I really would like to see a more competitive and realistic Pl12.

PL8 is doable cause u can almost use it as a shorter range R27ET and throw it at 4km and they won’t realise until it hits. PL12s are good, HMD + PL8 doable and quite nice avionics, just wondering if it might do better if we get earlier J8s such as J8H, with same everything but PL11 only, might do much better.

Pl-11 its just aspide, like in j-8B