Severe Imbalance in Top Tier Ground RB

@ileaveuptiers
That’s not a solution, that’s harming players that want to use weapons that are in the game.

People already hate that Tiger 2 105 is removed.

@PyroAddict
Literally never said that in my life. Also “performing” is a skill metric, not a vehicle metric; I would never use a skill metric when discussing vehicles.
I’ve endorsed new balanced additions to all tech trees, most of which are NATO, never objecting.

The only solution is SPAA powercreep, and that’s the one I go with.

There’s no balance when it comes to Russian aircraft and SPAA lol keep the big boy talk

Okay, here’s another solution. Give everyone’s top SPAA the same capabilities as the pantsir until everyone has their respective top tier SPAA.

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NO! That leaves CAS as OP.
SPAA needs to be added that’s superior to Pantsir.

Pantsir getting added to America changes NOTHING for Su-30SM and Su-34, that’s the issue.
We need Python 5 SPYDER equivalent systems, not Pantsir equivalent.

Yeah still leaves only Russian cas OP

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btw.

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THAT is something we agree on.

A breakthrough I wanted to get across, and I thank you.

Again, out of touch with reality. Pantsir would be able to deal with Kh38MTs

The SPAA needs to deal with the aircraft itself.

@PyroAddict
That post is purely talking about the myth of nation bias.


That is also ‘talking about the myth of nation bias’?
You can fool some of the people here getting to a fake concensus like you’ve done with me before, but i’ll manage to at least get them warned.

Thanks captain obvious.

So since you’re SO enlightened to the inner workings of War Thunder and you are the master of balance. Explain to us.

How would YOU immediately BALANCE war thunder in it’s current situation with the release of new SPAA not an option for months or a year? You are quick to talk down on our solutions but you have NO solution of your own.

If only every NATO aircraft could detect K band then maybe pantsir wouldn’t be as strong

The Kh-38 MT should be removed, at least until we don’t have an easly accessible counter against it. Adding that missile was Gaijin’s biggest mistake.

I’m just simply tired of getting clapped by a Kh38 just 3 minutes into a battle. I can even accept this if I could have any way to prevent further Kh38 strikes but no, I can’t because the NATO SPAAs are trash and spawning a plane with a fox3 loadout is over 700 SP.

Usually I just quit after 1 death if I’m getting killed by a Kh-38 right after the start and I cannot spawn a fighter.

As I see a lot of other player is doing the same and I can’t blame them. There is no reason to stay and play against something that you have no chance to counter.

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Same here, I just bring the HSTVL and ADATS with me in the hopes of getting into a fighter. I’ll spawn in with Adats and immediately turn off my radar to try and pick off any helicopters or arrogant planes. If I spawn into a plane great, if not I leave

That is not my post.
And the first sentence is them sharing their view in a civil manner, which is what I was supporting.

The fact your post implies the NATO playerbase is a “fake concensus” is telling.
Oh well, you may [a word of probability, not authoritative] hate NATO [I hope you don’t] but I’ll keep bug reporting to fix NATO equipment, I’ll keep supporting bug reporters, I’ll keep supporting new SPAA, I’ll keep supporting the AGM-84E, and so on.

@ileaveuptiers
There is no immediate solution.
War Thunder doesn’t have a restrictions ability like DCS.
War Thunder BR changes take months.

I already stated my solution: Powercreep the SPAA.

@Fanta_3412
If detecting locks mattered then there’d be zero CAS frags since ADATS was added as all CAS would’ve gotten intercepted.

You don’t do any of that. All you do is pretend to be sided with people only to backstab your exact conclusion on the very next topic.
Or just be an annoyance to OPs. Choose at will.

You are hopeless

@PyroAddict
I’ve never pretended in my life.
I’ve been behind every F-15 fix, either directly reporting or testing. Ordnance limits and flight models.
I’ve been the primary tester for Rafale and Typhoon bug reporters.
So on and so forth.

I make typing mistakes, and I acknowledge those mistakes.

just block him no point talking to him all he does is derail threads with false statements

@Alpharius11348 attempting to derail the topic and tell others to block everyone that isn’t Russian.

“There’s no point talking to NATO mains.”
Disgusting.