Serious Balance Issues with Russian Vehicles in War Thunder

I’d be pretty confidant that it at least approximates the (IRL) level of anti-ERA performance that the TOW-2B has.

So basically unless it has panels with true multi-hit capability It’s worthless within ~2km or so, at very least.

Last time I checked m829a4 isn’t a top attack missile…?

Maybe @quartas121 can clarify that for me.

Nor does that T-72 have an any era to speak of.

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It’s a mid 2010s round, better than A3 which basically negates k5, and makes kaktus much less effective, so id guess highly effective against relikt and helps with T-14 ERA

it isnt, but would be pretty cool if it was

How would it be effective against Relict? Relict debuted in 2015 on the T-90M, if its a 2010 round, that would mean it would reasonably only be effective against Kontact 5

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Can it make me some spaghetti and meatballs at least?

2010s, not 2010, it was approved for production after testing that took place in 2015

I’m still skeptical to say the least.

may have bits of DU in it you might ingest (which is about the only way DU can really harm you) but im sure you could find a way

thats fair, but if the new russian ERA is so good why hasnt a program for M829A5 started yet? these rounds are designed with beating future threats in mind too (such as relikt and T-14)

Finding, non-acquired items (era) to reverse engineer, etc.

There can be many reasons why or why not.

AFAIK the Relict ERA and Malichite were total redesigns of the whole ERA system.

Welp, gaijin said following:

The first consideration is the addition of a new M829A3 shell which we’ve also seen requests and suggestions for. We’ve discussed this option, but the addition of this shell in comparison with the M829A2 will not enhance the Abrams capability against top-tier vehicles that are equipped with modern armor and built-in ERA systems. We’re still considering the possibility of adding the M829A3 shell, but as a first change, we’re going to increase the rate of fire of first-stage ammo from 6 to 5 seconds per shot on an Ace level crew, which’ll make the Abrams more effective against all opponents. This rate of fire is possible considering the size and weight of most shells for 105 mm guns are comparable to shells for a 120 mm gun. This is due to the fact that the 120 mm cartridge case is partially combustible, while the 105 mm case is metal. For example, a 105 mm shell with an M900 projectile has a length of 1003 mm and a weight of 18.5 kg, and a 120 mm M829A2 has a length of 982 mm and a weight of 20.3 kg.

So they might use “their” sources, which would be hard to beat. Just wish smbd tested “Relikt” publically IRL(as was done with “Nizh” ERA)

lmao again no camera tricks, zoom didn’t change. is an honest person that unfathomable to you? if you go by pure height maybe but only because of thin MG, the silhouette is definitely larger, making it more noticeable and shootable in battle

here it is in customs lol



what a weird thing to get hung up about but w/e
@Masterbaishin SM vs Typhoon went 1-4 without full real controls, using them it would have probably scored one or two more. R73 early is key obviously

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there is good chance m829a4 was designed for defeating new gen ERA, its the only good reason to make it, but too little is known to the public to be completely sure

atleast 700m rha equivalent pen for sure

Is it a whole new round or just a new APFSDS?

penetrator and rest of round were changed, so id call it a new round overall

Do you need to insult me to prove your point?

Is that really all you can do?

Let’s remember that you’re saying i’m bsing some screenshots over the size of 2 tanks.
Go touch grass

You don’t need to be so hostile.

The type 16 has a larger footprint.
Your original screenshots don’t have the exact same perspective, which means they aren’t good evidence.

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