Sad but ur right
Russian bias is disgusting
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11.0 would be fine. The HSTV-L is better since the reload buff.
The real problematic vehicle at actualy fum BRs is BI. That thing absolutely claps wevery prop and 7.0-7.3 jet mercilessly. There’s no way of defeating it. You cwb only make him disengage, but killing that thing is a matter of extreme luck or several people cooperating in a smart manner, which happens almost never.
may i know where is this soviet biased 2S38 that you guys been talking about?
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10.3 light tank on ussr
U never played 9.3-11.3?
You’re still completely lost lmao
The stat card would say Maximum overload 22G, as that would be the maximum half-rotation average during the flight.
The average missile overload depends on the flight profile so it can’t be on the stat card.
Just like how the manuals to avoid Stingers don’t give a shit what the peak is, war thunder would not list peak there either. (and yes peak is still the correct term, but i don’t expect some non-STEM to understand).
The Su34 player facing ADATS is saying this btw.
And then they beg and cry for respect.
How can anyone be this hypocritical and not instantly die of self disgust, I’ll never know.
I agree with tripod, originally thought ungimped Stingers would need to go up but that’s just because I’m used to Russia being handheld. If Strela suddenly gained double its overload and range they wouldn’t move it up and just blame CAS players like they did with Pantsir.
Maximum value will never be the average one unless they’re all the same.
Your peak is maximum.
Your maximum is average.
Good to know that we agree.
I don’t play CAS, imagine being this ignorant.
They would need to go up as they would be massively better than 8.7/9.0 AAs and it would also massively decrease the gap between them and SACLOS AAs, forcing them to go up as well.
I know that RU lives rent-free and that everything revolves around them in your head, but please snap out from your delusions as we’re discussing game balance which include looking at all related vehicles.
You can now predict what would happen, this is yet another superpower of yours.
Maximum value will never be the average one unless they’re all the same.
There are two averages at work little buddy. Read the original quote over and over until you get it or ask the devs to spoonfeed you some more, idk.
I don’t play CAS
we’re discussing game balance which include looking at all related vehicles.
Adding the Pantsir is similar to making the Stinger realistic without changing its BR, and the Pantsir broke US winrate 1 or 2 years ago now. You think that the situation is fine at top tier, doesn’t that make your opinion about balance absolutely worthless?
smol hint
air realistic exists.
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I mean maybe make russian air playable at anything but cas, and make russian tanks even equal to their nato counter parts and then we can talk, russian tank kd is completely attrocious, and it has to rely on helis and cas to get kills, so if you nerf the cas capabilities and spaa then atleast bring the r77 and su27 to their historical values and buff russian MBTS
A. he uses CAS jets (which are some of the worst ARB jets) exclusively in ARB
B. he uses them for CAS and is just being dishonest like he has been throughout this entire topic
Mhhh…
Russia air is very playable at top tier because teams are a mix of all nations, so even if the F15 and Typhoons are better, it’s not a stompfest like GRB. Especially with how messy it gets on tiny maps with 16 players.
Incredible. Especially that last part. I remember when the russian main hivemind go-to argument was “ummmm like US doctrine is to use air units for everything so it’s normal that their tanks are ass”
I guess I can add doublethink to the list
Stingers don’t work the same way, due to the combination of the Proportional Actuators and the Closed Loop Control schema, there isn’t any requirement to do things via rotation.
Excerpts from patent US4054254A (FIM-92 G&C) & US3010677A (FIM-43 G&C)
See above.
I mean the so called playable top tier is where russia has no long range fox 3 and looses in every single close range scenario to the typhoon, and in some of them to the f-15e is completely vile, not to mention the lack of a radar on the su27sm since the refresh rate and the scope of the radar is worse then that of a 12.3 and has the same amount of datalink as 12.3 which is not playable at all, and not even a MAW system which is just completely laughable
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I mean it is incredible since abrams have better mobility, reload, shell, survivability , and a loader instead of autoloader but ig the lobotomied USA mains who want everything handed to them on a silver platter still somehow call russian tanks superior?
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Litterly makes no difference if there is 400 mm of protection or 70 , which I agree is too little but i can also find some angle in drivers port where bvm gets 1 shot by 1.3
Curious what you think I’m getting wrong, the missile is constantly rotating and control surfaces are being actuated accordingly when in the correct plane. I was referring to a max pull scenario only since we’re talking about max missile overload, maybe that’s the disconnect
The radar does suck but the Su27 is best played at close range. It’s just not true that it always loses to the Typhoon at close range. Maybe with pre-nerf 9Ms.
Legit insane to say that when the literal vast majority of US games are defeats, usually severe defeats at that. Russian armor is vastly superior, ERA overperforms, AA CAS and helis are all best in game by far… Just more projection tbh. I’ll recognize that US gets preferential treatment in air in general but not to the same extent as russia does in ground
You can literally bounce a round into the turret drive disabling the Abrams. Anything between the bottom of the driver’s view port and mantlet is a penetrable area. if the area was better armored in game, at least the ricochet shots wouldn’t have enough energy to penetrate
I haven’t played RU top tier in GRB for years now and I also have only 9 ground kills with Su-34.
I’m using it exclusively to play ARB as I like to play with underdogs. Feels pretty rewarding to kill UFOs that got you by the balls in every single measurable metric with this HMD-less shitbrick.
I always said that we need more top tier AAs as most are unusable against current jets.
Stingers are perfectly usable against air at their own BR though.
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Heavy doubt on the first one - but respect for the second. Too bad you’ve got the opposite energy in GRB
Pantsir unusable against current jets… aaaand respect is gone
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