CAP has always been a much better way to deal with both helicopters and planes, AAs are just picking up scraps.
Even Pantsir is struggling against decently played subsonic, just like you said.
Hey man, I’m just trying to strike balance and fun.
There are balanced things, and there are totally unbalanced things.
Most people disagree as it breaks their op tank into less effective to make it balanced
Yeah sure. You’re funny.
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I don’t think you understand the point everyone is trying to make to you… The SU-34 CANT BE TOUCHED FROM THE GROUND! It spawns 15km away, fires all its missiles and turns around just as it hits the max envelope of anyone else’s AA which at that point is like throwing a rock around attached to a rubber string which BTW is a made up nerf given to Western radar guided AA. If you are telling me that the only way to counter it is to camp an air spawn during a GRB game then sure. I’m going to join a GRB game, rush to the cap, kill myself and then spawn a ‘UFO’ just to now basically play ARB.
Welcome to CAS in WT.
AAs are basically helpless against competent pilots.
I do get you as I’m also someone that isn’t interested in planes that much but sadly this is a reality of higher tier CAS in this game.
I dislike our AAs being meh at best just as much as you do. From all AAs I’ve played, only things that I consider to be scary are M247 and Type 81.
They’re helpless because they can’t even reach them and still have to then use SACLOS even when they are in range. Panstir isn’t nerfed unlike European AA and european missiles in general. We are talking about balance here how it that balanced, like the not even in service 57mm death machine which the Puma somehow has a higher BR than.
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It’s the strongest AA in the game by far, it shits on any jet from any nation in the hands of anyone with a pulse.
Should just say you’re at a loss for words, it’s less embarrassing
This is such a non sequitur. You’ll really say anything just to have the last word huh? No wonder you worship russia
Then imagine other SPAA
Pantsir are just struggle
Other? Just literally can’t do sht.
Should have let other Spawn jet with air to air load out as the of cost spawn point around 300sp
Since we don’t have effective SPAA
For ground? Well… I mean … yeah.
If decompression was a thing. They’d be the only nation with 3 tanks in the last BR bracket with 3 other nations only having 1 tank in that same bracket. Everyone else wouldn’t even have a tank in that bracket. For ground, Sweden is certainly the golden child.
Its literally the easiest antiair to counter in toptier. Just fly low and strafe it
Work for any SPAA without gun so your point?
Yeah, I agree that Pantsir in game is too good, we all saw the ‘quality’ of it as a SPAA last month where it failed to bring down a plane.
But on the other hand, we’ve little good SPAA’s in game as it is.
It being the strongest doesn’t mean it’s competitive as a counter.
It’s nuisance at best against anyone in a subsonic (or above) plane that has a pulse.
AAs are simply too weak to do anything to a pilot with a single braincell, even Gaijin acknowledged that.
Definitely at a loss for words.
Same as if someone tried to claim 2 + 2 = 5
Only valid response is laughter.
I see no issue in pointing out others also have the same tools at their disposal to fight RU planes.
Strela-card is unusable now, just like Pantsir will be very soon.
I wonder what you gonna moan about next.
Yeah it’s struggling against subsonics. I don’t think our top tier jets are subsonics, right ?
I guess the story will be the same even after we get new AAs, as I’m sure ODL squad will still be out playing with no ground or air counters in their lineup.
There is a reason why CAS are called cancer, it literally exists only to create more problems that no one could solve lol drone are stupid addition to the ground too, no idea why they continue to ruin the gameplay of ground vehicles. What’s next? Orbital ion cannon for 1500sp to click on any ground target??
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F them all for all i care really
grinding tanks in top tier is like a waste of time.
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The SU-34 ability to nuke ground targets is close to Orbital Ion cannon strike, that is how ridiculous the CAS are. Game mode called ground battle but the gameplay is everybody and their mother should focus on shooting down the stupid planes if they wanna play ground vehicle.
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In all honesty Ion, i don’t find some of your views about top tier as ‘balanced’ as you pretend to. Also, your lack experience/perspective in said echelons quite drags me away from you being compelling on top of such sarcastic, sharp affirmations.
You can’t be that confident and to gatekeep stuff whenever you haven’t really played either Russian CAS or at the very least, NATO/whatever CAP at top tier (12.7, not the 11.7/12.0 matchmaker).