Serious Balance Issues with Russian Vehicles in War Thunder

Oh, sorry that not all people have jet, and we don’t have best SPAA in the game because we are not handheld like mighty suffering Russia, please forgive us for not being easy mode like Russia do.

sure sounds a lot like many players here, but instead they hate Russia and think they deserve to suffer.

I haven’t seen any points/opinions that can be considered terrible, unlike ones I’ve seen from other players here.

I genuinely can’t take anyone who wants CAS to be buffed seriously. Do they just hate tank players that much?

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Russia has counters from the air, those wouldn’t.

Other nations can spawn planes just as RU can, there’s not a single thing stopping you to do just that.

Wdym giving a nation the best A2G weapons on the best performing airframe, while still allowing a nearly full A2A loadout wouldn’t be balanced?

What could possibly go wrong?

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you can only break lock in terminal faze, you might as well keep it in lock for a couple more seconds to get a more accurate hit, its completely not worth mentioning as some sort of benefit that would help you effectively stay out of spaa fire when we are comparing it to a FNF missile you can launch and just fly away, you are grasping at straws here…

Weve been over this and you always ignore these arguments, but pantsir is strong enough to severely impede CAP. It forces fox3 to be fired from too far away to be effective.
Even close range tree top CAP is much harder due to pantsir cannons, kamov a2a missiles, and Russian air being superior at close range. Russia of course also has the second best IR SAM with the Strela which is very effective even at top tier. And often has ty90 on their team.

Nothing, at least if you are looking it from their point of view.
Me being the best at everything = balance.

You mark the point on the map, fire the missile while doing anything else, wait until it has a few seconds until impact, pop up and laze the target.

Pantsir can’t even reliably kill subsonics.
I’m not the one who said that first either.

I had a laugh at that.

So do three other nations with the best CAP in the game.

What do you mean those wouldn’t? who wouldn’t?
every CAS has counter from air no exception

Yeah, the only Russia able to fly brainlessly while other need to take defensive maneuver right after spawn that the different which can mean life and death sometime if someone flying nearby sure you can’t imagine because you never face Pantsir while flying SUffering-34

The nations with Tornados as those have EFT.
Latter can defend the former very well and also do ground pounding of their own.

Yes, just don’t bring subsonics and don’t be afk.

Oh we are talking about not individual vehicle now?
good because Brits line up are ways worse than Russia it deserves LOAL than other nation

Oh, only Russia deserves to fly brainlessly while other don’t
how about this?
you go fight someone that have Pantsir covering their ass and you don’t
see if it changes your opinion.
or you can try it with me while i have two Pantsir covering my a*s 12km aways from battle and we do some dogfight around that range and i’m not going to kill you here (because it not about win or lose i just wanna show you what it looks like)

LOAL should never come to WT unless all nation have an SPAA vastly superior to the Pantsir.
Asking for it just shows your biases, and invalidates your opinion.

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Ok then with that logic make Brimstones FNF, give Roland based systems Radar guidance and better performance then because that’s meant to be apart of those vehicles. Not being a UFO has absolutely no effect at that range when you are UNTOUCHABLE.

Have we ever ?
I only see people bringing up Pantsir all the time.

Bringing 12.7s and not flying afk is pretty brainless to me.

How about whole team focuses me ?

I would be in favor of removing the FNF missiles from GRB as long as there are no suitable countermeasures for most nations.

Otherwise, the point remains: if one nation is OP, then it’s better for all nations to be OP. It might not be fun anymore, but at least it would be fair.

Should be fine with BR increases.

You are very touchable.
Remember, if they can spawn their Su-34, you can spawn your UFO, the spawning system is the same.

How do you know when you never intercept someone while dodging pantsir? lol

what do you mean by that?

maybe you don’t get fire upon right after spawn by SPAA? unless some Gripen decide to do something dirty which you rarely gonna be in that situation (but if it happens consider as you deserve it)

We’re not in the 90s.
It’s 2025 and content is readily available at just few clicks away.

People not cosplaying as JustinPlays and flying 5km away from the battlefield are constantly dodging Pantsirs, even in their shitbricks.

Forget it, it’s not important.

You need to show people how to effectively spawn camp Su-34s in Gripens. Maybe they’ll finally start spawning real counters instead of wasting their time on the forums.

You don’t understand?
if the only effective ways to prevent KH-38 from killing teammate is to air spawn camp
it not balance it the sign of how fked up the game balance are
is that the balance you really want?
you keep talking about balance while keep ignore about what really happen in front of your face.

I don’t really want CAS to be strong, but if that’s the case I’d want it to be balanced.
Only true counter to CAS is CAP at the moment, people ignoring it is the problem of it’s own.

Neither do i but here we are damage already done now all i want is equal treatment
And For how game force me to fly more than playing tanks in grb for my own survival sure as hell i hate this sure CAS strong before SU-34 even exist but at least deal with them even with SPAA are possible now apart from pantsir it just impossible