Serious Balance Issues with Russian Vehicles in War Thunder

LOAL should never come to WT unless all nation have an SPAA vastly superior to the Pantsir.
Asking for it just shows your biases, and invalidates your opinion.

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Ok then with that logic make Brimstones FNF, give Roland based systems Radar guidance and better performance then because that’s meant to be apart of those vehicles. Not being a UFO has absolutely no effect at that range when you are UNTOUCHABLE.

Have we ever ?
I only see people bringing up Pantsir all the time.

Bringing 12.7s and not flying afk is pretty brainless to me.

How about whole team focuses me ?

I would be in favor of removing the FNF missiles from GRB as long as there are no suitable countermeasures for most nations.

Otherwise, the point remains: if one nation is OP, then it’s better for all nations to be OP. It might not be fun anymore, but at least it would be fair.

Should be fine with BR increases.

You are very touchable.
Remember, if they can spawn their Su-34, you can spawn your UFO, the spawning system is the same.

How do you know when you never intercept someone while dodging pantsir? lol

what do you mean by that?

maybe you don’t get fire upon right after spawn by SPAA? unless some Gripen decide to do something dirty which you rarely gonna be in that situation (but if it happens consider as you deserve it)

We’re not in the 90s.
It’s 2025 and content is readily available at just few clicks away.

People not cosplaying as JustinPlays and flying 5km away from the battlefield are constantly dodging Pantsirs, even in their shitbricks.

Forget it, it’s not important.

You need to show people how to effectively spawn camp Su-34s in Gripens. Maybe they’ll finally start spawning real counters instead of wasting their time on the forums.

You don’t understand?
if the only effective ways to prevent KH-38 from killing teammate is to air spawn camp
it not balance it the sign of how fked up the game balance are
is that the balance you really want?
you keep talking about balance while keep ignore about what really happen in front of your face.

I don’t really want CAS to be strong, but if that’s the case I’d want it to be balanced.
Only true counter to CAS is CAP at the moment, people ignoring it is the problem of it’s own.

Neither do i but here we are damage already done now all i want is equal treatment
And For how game force me to fly more than playing tanks in grb for my own survival sure as hell i hate this sure CAS strong before SU-34 even exist but at least deal with them even with SPAA are possible now apart from pantsir it just impossible

CAP has always been a much better way to deal with both helicopters and planes, AAs are just picking up scraps.
Even Pantsir is struggling against decently played subsonic, just like you said.

Hey man, I’m just trying to strike balance and fun.

There are balanced things, and there are totally unbalanced things.

Most people disagree as it breaks their op tank into less effective to make it balanced

Yeah sure. You’re funny.

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I don’t think you understand the point everyone is trying to make to you… The SU-34 CANT BE TOUCHED FROM THE GROUND! It spawns 15km away, fires all its missiles and turns around just as it hits the max envelope of anyone else’s AA which at that point is like throwing a rock around attached to a rubber string which BTW is a made up nerf given to Western radar guided AA. If you are telling me that the only way to counter it is to camp an air spawn during a GRB game then sure. I’m going to join a GRB game, rush to the cap, kill myself and then spawn a ‘UFO’ just to now basically play ARB.

Welcome to CAS in WT.
AAs are basically helpless against competent pilots.

I do get you as I’m also someone that isn’t interested in planes that much but sadly this is a reality of higher tier CAS in this game.
I dislike our AAs being meh at best just as much as you do. From all AAs I’ve played, only things that I consider to be scary are M247 and Type 81.

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They’re helpless because they can’t even reach them and still have to then use SACLOS even when they are in range. Panstir isn’t nerfed unlike European AA and european missiles in general. We are talking about balance here how it that balanced, like the not even in service 57mm death machine which the Puma somehow has a higher BR than.

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It’s the strongest AA in the game by far, it shits on any jet from any nation in the hands of anyone with a pulse.

Should just say you’re at a loss for words, it’s less embarrassing

This is such a non sequitur. You’ll really say anything just to have the last word huh? No wonder you worship russia

Then imagine other SPAA
Pantsir are just struggle
Other? Just literally can’t do sht.

Should have let other Spawn jet with air to air load out as the of cost spawn point around 300sp
Since we don’t have effective SPAA