Serious Balance Issues with Russian Vehicles in War Thunder

Pantsir has a 17km range against aircraft, USA, Japan, Soviets, France, Britain, and whoever else I’m missing all have 20km class range AGMs.

I don’t know i mean i saw people with many sources say Eurofighter actually can do that plus right now CAPTOR M on it still kinda underperform and the most Gen4.5 have MAW not just Eurofighter try to get gen4.5 it not gonna be easy.

Unlikely there only two possible that you can see such mad man that gonna shoot 18brimstone at one pantsir
1.The people who really hate Pantsir
2. Me

I doubt they’ll transition from pulling 15G to -8G and then back to 15G in a matter of seconds in real life.
I think the devs said they’re working on CRAPTOR-M so the fix is bound to come soon.
Don’t get me wrong, Rafale is very strong, but I think EFT is the stronger one.

By doing that you’re getting rid of the nuisance, so that you can farm free kills on Su-34s.
I think most people moaning about Pantsir actually spawn in a premium Tornado or something like that.

What gen 2 jet is within the 12.0 BR range?

Makes sense - can only imagine all that anti-Russian propaganda being fed into you about how rubbish the Russian gear is and so on, and how wonderful the Nato gear is. This whole conversation chain started because you stated, and I quote:

But the simple fact is, you won’t be able to produce a list of USSR/Russian under-BR’d vehicles without recognising that the other trees have equally strong and even stronger vehicles available to them at each of those higher BR ratings. My looking at your profile was never to stat shame you at all, I’m not out to shame anyone or judge anyone just from that, but I expected your claim to be backed up with vehicle performances that would demonstrate that there may be balance issues to be seen, which I didn’t. And any notion that Russian players just need to ‘git gud’ to take advantage of their gear is quite laughable when each nation has their fair share of good, average, bad and terrible players. Each nation has their fair share of players who play aggressively, defensively, with care or without care. Especially the major nations. This whole topic is just a Russian-bias whine, without much evidence of substance.

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Sure

Ha?
Like what?

If I had almost 2000 kills with the Object 279 I would also be concerned about Gaijin changing the russian BRs upwards :)

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AGM-65, Hammer, KH-38, and PGM /3 all use the same IR seekers in-game currently.
Now whether they should is likely they shouldn’t, but they do.

I’m with you on that one.

But I want the 279 at 9.3 for selfish reasons, so I can unite the 279/BMP3/BMD4 gang with the addition of T-72A, Object775, and co. I don’t mind playing 279 in uptiers, but I don’t want to purposely uptier it for the sake of other vehicles. So if Gaijin does it for me, I’ll get some more play time in the 9.3 vehicles.

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Mav don’t have IOG

Maveriks have 10km range hammers have 20 km but very slow with a big trail and ez to intercept and so the pgms
And why u saying kh38?
This missile is on pantsir side its part of the problem
Exept france and britian with their very slow missiles there is no equivlant to the kh38

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Interception is only really plausible when targeting the SPAA itself, if you target tanks as you should, the difference in angle causes issues.

And AGM speed doesn’t mean much other than avoiding someone getting a frag on the targeted vehicle faster than you.

Sry what?

Why and how i can lunch on mbts when there is spaa on my ass?

Yes

I will also become a statcard warrior for a while and tell you that 20km is written there in white on gray, isn’t it?

Huh?
Idk even gaijin said in agms video that maveriks has 10km
And also if u can lock u dont have the energy to lumch it from 20 km unless u are very high and then pantsir will destroy it on the way and u right after
Nato needs smt like the kh38
Idk about other countries bit i main israel and gaijin can add the rampage agms any time they want but guess what thats going to ruin the russian bias

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I just tested AGM-65G and KH-38MT. AGM-65G locked a moving tank from 11km, KH-38MT the same tank from 10km. There may be an error due to the height of several hundred meters or similar. So telling that some agm locking a tank from 20km and exceeding every spaa range is wrong.

Open your account and see 11.0-12.0 GRB BR… Also when we say uptier we don’t mean unable to do anything other than staying 20km away bruh