Um… did you even read what you posted?
If the toughest opponents the KT will face can be penetrated “without much trouble” that IS a problem.
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It’s not a straw man, I know from experiance no german main will ever complain about them having access to the M109G
But the second they face PT 76 then now it’s problematic
what does the M-109G have to do with germans?
iirc its a vehicle added to most nations in WT at the same BR across all. aside from upgraded models if there are any.
besides, i dont think the M-109G should be below this artificial line. its breaks WWII immersion.
He is right. 6.7 viacles cant fight 7.3 7.7. I mean, some 6.7 can, but others cant. An egsamole is t26e5. Good armor , but a 90mm. Wont have a single chance at a 7.7 tank. Gajin should make a unimpossible upter for 6.7 and an impossible 7.7 downtier. Only 7.0 tanks can stay, like the t29. Will work at 7.7
The thing is that war thunder is NOT a realistic WW2 simulator, it is a very arcade like game showing unrealistic portayal of tank combat, the balance of the game is a lot more important than immersion
If the game was realistic spawning a tiger should be rare and very likely to be lacking ammo and fuel, or both, and the german teams would have less players
didnt say it is a simulator. so…
that was a tangent breh
Yeah, they did that already, they moved all the 7.3s up to 7.7 so they wouldn’t face the 6.3s, wanna guess what happened?
The 6.3s stated slaughtering the 5.3/5.7, so they got moved up to 6.7, then the 5.7s started murdering the 5.3/4.7s and got moved to 6.0, then… you get the picture.
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Then why doas it matter what tank you face has long has they are balanced to play against, the game made a promise that the vehicle would be historical and mostly accuratly portayed while being balanced
Ahistorical matchmaking is nececarry to hold that promise up
LOL, Oh look the PZH 2000 being OP AF and fighting tanks 66 years older than it.
The problem with the pzh is that it’s over-powered, not that it’s a modern artillery
The point is they failed on both counts, it’s horrificaly OP AND decades out of place. M-44 should be about 5.3/7, PZH and VIDAR should be 9.0/3, the rest scaled in between accordingly.
That would put them inline with both balance and, at least mostly, fighting things they actually fought.
Just remove it’s laser range finder and boom it’s balanced, it’s a balancing issue not realism issue
Their is no reason a tank should be uptiered based on a number that has no affect on gameplay
No, it still has a nuke shell with better ballistics than any tank save the Centurions at it’s BR. Oh and a 5 sec reload.
It might shock you but some people in this game actually want some degree of realism in the game, like not fighting SPHs from the year 2000 in WW2 tanks, especially when there is zero reason for them to be there given their capabilities.
And other people want to play stuff with it’s realistic capabilities. removing IRL functions screws over BOTH for no reason.
1: It would be balanced because then skill would be involved in long range shot, and at short range well it’s a vehicle the size of the house without armor, free kill
2: Then play sim, the game is not meant to be realistic past the potrayal of tanks, the tank combat is extremly unrealistic not just about HOW it happens but how the mechanics are represented, they are many WW2 tank simulator you can play if you want
Not really. try actually reading what I said about it’s ballistics.
But this is devolving into you trying to defend a blatantly OP vehicle when I just used it as an example of haw Gaijin dose a poor job on both balance and realism, I have zero idea why this turned into a “PZH 2000 not OP” cope session.
lets stop de-railing the thread.
Yes and I disagree the balistic is what makes it over-powered, it’s not the only artillery with good balistic, like the AUF1 or bkan, which are 7.0 and 6.7 respectivly
And I told you the age of a tank is completly irrelevent on the realism part, the date of creation is just a number, should the IS5 be at a higher br than the IS3 because it has a bigger number too?
oh i dont know, maybe the world is bigger than simple BR based balancing. maybe some people want… idk… a thing called immersion?
Then play a world war II tank simulator game, plenty of thos, or play sim which is the war thunder alternative
ground sim doesnt rlly fulfill my desire in its current implementation. nor does any other tank game.
can you not accept that people have desires that dont align with yours?