Then why doas it matter what tank you face has long has they are balanced to play against, the game made a promise that the vehicle would be historical and mostly accuratly portayed while being balanced
Ahistorical matchmaking is nececarry to hold that promise up
LOL, Oh look the PZH 2000 being OP AF and fighting tanks 66 years older than it.
The problem with the pzh is that it’s over-powered, not that it’s a modern artillery
The point is they failed on both counts, it’s horrificaly OP AND decades out of place. M-44 should be about 5.3/7, PZH and VIDAR should be 9.0/3, the rest scaled in between accordingly.
That would put them inline with both balance and, at least mostly, fighting things they actually fought.
Just remove it’s laser range finder and boom it’s balanced, it’s a balancing issue not realism issue
Their is no reason a tank should be uptiered based on a number that has no affect on gameplay
No, it still has a nuke shell with better ballistics than any tank save the Centurions at it’s BR. Oh and a 5 sec reload.
It might shock you but some people in this game actually want some degree of realism in the game, like not fighting SPHs from the year 2000 in WW2 tanks, especially when there is zero reason for them to be there given their capabilities.
And other people want to play stuff with it’s realistic capabilities. removing IRL functions screws over BOTH for no reason.
1: It would be balanced because then skill would be involved in long range shot, and at short range well it’s a vehicle the size of the house without armor, free kill
2: Then play sim, the game is not meant to be realistic past the potrayal of tanks, the tank combat is extremly unrealistic not just about HOW it happens but how the mechanics are represented, they are many WW2 tank simulator you can play if you want
Not really. try actually reading what I said about it’s ballistics.
But this is devolving into you trying to defend a blatantly OP vehicle when I just used it as an example of haw Gaijin dose a poor job on both balance and realism, I have zero idea why this turned into a “PZH 2000 not OP” cope session.
lets stop de-railing the thread.
Yes and I disagree the balistic is what makes it over-powered, it’s not the only artillery with good balistic, like the AUF1 or bkan, which are 7.0 and 6.7 respectivly
And I told you the age of a tank is completly irrelevent on the realism part, the date of creation is just a number, should the IS5 be at a higher br than the IS3 because it has a bigger number too?
oh i dont know, maybe the world is bigger than simple BR based balancing. maybe some people want… idk… a thing called immersion?
Then play a world war II tank simulator game, plenty of thos, or play sim which is the war thunder alternative
ground sim doesnt rlly fulfill my desire in its current implementation. nor does any other tank game.
can you not accept that people have desires that dont align with yours?
We seem to be missing each others point. Yes some stuff needs to be at lover BRs than historical match making would put it (Me-262s and Meteors would be lower than some Spitfires in that case) my point is why force already OP stuff to lower BRs when it (A) could go up as is to face things of it’s own era and be perfectly fine. and (B) has a bunch of missing features that can be added to make it even more powerful.
Yes, you could nerf the PZH fire rate and shell velocity and remove it’s LRF, etc. but then what’s even the point of adding it?
Yeah, just piss away the thousands of hours and dollars I have already spent in this game because Gaijin decided to add 2000s tech to WW2 ranks… I could tell you what to do with that idea but it would be against forum TOS
Yes I accept that, but maybe that desire just not is in war thunder, like right now I want to play a medival game about running a kingdom, so im gonna play crusader kings III not war thunder
You do realize warthunder WAS a WW2 game when many people started playing right?
Yeah but it was also a plane game, should we delete ground battles because that’s not what war thunder was about at first?
sadly most people dont
so… why?
7.7 technologies are rather not advanced. So the 6.7 tanks are often pretty competitive.
Its not the 7.7 VS 8.7 situation where its obvious that stabs, APFSDS, protection or mobility that 8.7 has is too much for 7.7 to compete.
your argument is just wrong on so many levels bro…
the infrastructure is already present in warthudner. im not gonna ask some rando on the internet to make me a new game when gaijin can easily implement these changes FOR THE BETTER of the game