Regardless of if they can pen frontally, frontally engaging a heavy tank that is 1.0br above you is not exactly optimal.
Even in downtiers i run my heavies along flanks for the most part. Even with armor, i would rather not risk it. Plus makes taking out the enemy much easier.
Right, which is why I posted the video from the match as well. Positioning matters a lot in this game, but that wasn’t the point I was making.
My point is that, if the Tiger II player fucks up and ends up frontally facing a tank 1 whole BR above it, it can still win the engagement and kill the enemy. Not many heavy tanks can say the same thing. The gun is simply exceptional on the Tiger II and enables it to do things even in uptiers that would otherwise not be possible.
Everything else you say is correct, survivability onion, flank etc etc. But really the Tiger II is incredibly forgiving to play in uptiers, because the gun stays competitive.
Maybe he just needs one of those experiences where he realizes what he had.
Give him a dozen 4.7-5.7 matches in the churchill mk7.
And those are also found at or almost same br as the tiger 2 not a full br lower, there you have the 75 jumbo that each time that it faces a tiger 2 H is like a boss battle
Jumbo 75 sees the very same Tiger II in full uptiers…
Like I said. 6.7 has some of the easiest full uptiers of the whole game. They heavily decompressed this area in 2023 and it is a joy to play that BR. Though at some point they really need to take it away from some of the 5.7s, which are very oppressed by it.
Yeah. 6.7 is pretty fun.
US has a stacked line up if you have the tanks. But the jagdtiger is one the more chill tanks to play around there. Very nice.
The joy of bonking M103s with it. So good lol.
never hear a better straw man bruh. ur good at this
as if my history of suggestions wasnt the hint. totally irrelevant. truly…
I suggested something that would solve this issue, but Warthunder forumers didn’t care for it. It was a complete separation of rank 5 and 6, so if (hypothetically) a rank 5 was 7.7 and a rank 6 was 8.0, they would never face eachother.
Why didn’t you show the Tiger 2 vs the rounds of the IS-4M and T32E1? Or how the Centurion can also pen the IS-4M and T32E1 very easily
6.7 is extremely oppressive against 5.7 and doesn’t suffer at all against 7.7
Um… did you even read what you posted?
If the toughest opponents the KT will face can be penetrated “without much trouble” that IS a problem.
It’s not a straw man, I know from experiance no german main will ever complain about them having access to the M109G
But the second they face PT 76 then now it’s problematic
what does the M-109G have to do with germans?
iirc its a vehicle added to most nations in WT at the same BR across all. aside from upgraded models if there are any.
besides, i dont think the M-109G should be below this artificial line. its breaks WWII immersion.
He is right. 6.7 viacles cant fight 7.3 7.7. I mean, some 6.7 can, but others cant. An egsamole is t26e5. Good armor , but a 90mm. Wont have a single chance at a 7.7 tank. Gajin should make a unimpossible upter for 6.7 and an impossible 7.7 downtier. Only 7.0 tanks can stay, like the t29. Will work at 7.7
The thing is that war thunder is NOT a realistic WW2 simulator, it is a very arcade like game showing unrealistic portayal of tank combat, the balance of the game is a lot more important than immersion
If the game was realistic spawning a tiger should be rare and very likely to be lacking ammo and fuel, or both, and the german teams would have less players
didnt say it is a simulator. so…
that was a tangent breh
Yeah, they did that already, they moved all the 7.3s up to 7.7 so they wouldn’t face the 6.3s, wanna guess what happened?
The 6.3s stated slaughtering the 5.3/5.7, so they got moved up to 6.7, then the 5.7s started murdering the 5.3/4.7s and got moved to 6.0, then… you get the picture.
Then why doas it matter what tank you face has long has they are balanced to play against, the game made a promise that the vehicle would be historical and mostly accuratly portayed while being balanced
Ahistorical matchmaking is nececarry to hold that promise up
LOL, Oh look the PZH 2000 being OP AF and fighting tanks 66 years older than it.