XD I play all nations, including your funny Germans, and I see in battles and in person that this sdkfz is quite strong and a very common choice.
3x15mm are more powerful than 12.7 and 14.5, have a long belt, high rate of fire and HE belt.
There must be something wrong with your head to even say that 3x15mm is weaker or comparable to 2x14.5mm.
The only problems of the German nation are the lack of people playing planes and noobs playing this nation dying for 0 and returning to the hangar.
The only battles in which I made kills and my entire team did absolutely nothing were with Germans on the team, I was playing Italy then.
I’m not surprised that so many noobs play the Germans since they have such easy tanks to play as Tiger, Panther, Tiger 2 P/H, even Pz.4. Pz.4 is comparable or even better than Japanese tanks i.e. Chi-Nu II, Chi-To’s or even Chi-Ri II (I would rather play Pz.4 on 5.0 than Chi-Ri), but Japanese tanks are a whole 1 BR higher, they have slightly better penetration, but Pz4 are smaller and more mobile.
Chi-Tos are definitely more mobile than long barrel Pz.IVs now that they have 500 horsepower.
but even before then, Chi-Tos had more hp/ton, and accelerated better.
Those aren’t really that easy to play though.
The Tiger II H is extremely slow, faces many vehicles which can lol-pen it frontally, is easily outflanked by the countless number of agile vehicles and it’s armour is also quite easily exploited via it’s weaknesses.
Panther’s now being at higher BR’s with lower horsepower than before has meant they aren’t as powerful as they used to be. Same for the Jagdpanther.
Tiger 1’s can get some rough matchmaking where they fight large numbers of T26E5’s, T34’s and T26E1’s.
Minor nations often have slightly higher BR’s for equivalent vehicle due to higher average player skill.
Now, I don’t play Japan myself so I can’t comment on whether or not the PzKpfw IV’s are better, but compared to the M4’s and T-34’s they’re slightly worse.
Both the T-34 and M4 are also easier to play than a PzKpfw IV.
How about 11.7
All German vehicles should be at least 5 br’s above OP american crap from 1960’s fighting German WWII stuff .
M16 has an entire extra gun and a LOT more ammo.
Haven’t you noticed that you already have a lot of vehicles from the 50s and 60s on WW2 era…
The most broken examples are the M51 and all kinds of howitzers.
Exactly ,that is why you move all American Mickey Mouse tanks (T Series) all Russian Objects tested after WWII from BR’s where they fight WWII Vehicles .
Then you create BR for those science fiction tanks (Sci-Fi as far as WWII is concerned) and they can fight each other.
Then you move those original Rats M56/M50/T92 into BR hosting 1970’s vehicles
We all know why game is in such state as it is …Business model comes first …who cares if War Thunder resembles Tanki more and more with each passing day.
Pz.4 are a bit demanding, but in my opinion they are good tanks.
When playing Tiger 2, you play as a heavy tank, so you automatically accept the loss of speed in favor of armor and cannon.
Tiger 2 is easy to play, they can often even take a hit to the side and nothing happens to them, just snail moment.
I don’t know, maybe I’m doing much better in them than other people because I’m just patient and I check everything, I listen to my surroundings, and I’m not going ahead to die.
Besides, German tanks are perfect for long-range combat, which people don’t do very often, from what I see, and maps often don’t allow it.
I need to refresh my Tiger I because I haven’t played them for a long time, but I think it should still be a pretty good tank.
The same with the Japanese, but I remember that they seemed much worse than the Pz.4.
T26E5, T34 and T26E1, they are easy to defeat, with the possible exception of the T26E5, but just shoot the barrel or the sides of the bottom plate or the mg port and you have it, remember that the T26E5 doesn’t have a better cannon and still has a regular 90mm gun from the M26, so a regular bullet from the front won’t do much to you, it may destroy the barrel, but he will have to switch to a sub-caliber bullet.
It’s a pity that this game went in such a direction that vehicles with HEAT ammo or howitzers from the 1960s are in the WW2 era
Generally, there are still a lot of prototypes of tanks and planes from the WW2 era, but they are still not added, not to mention vehicles that were mass-produced, such as the StuG IV.
You can already guess why this is so, all these vehicles are waiting for all kinds of future events and battle passes. It’s a pity that lately we only get vehicles copy-pasted from the tree, possibly with minor changes, see the last yak-3 or kungstiger.
What also bothers me is that they no longer add any interesting premium tanks that can normally be bought for gold, they only add battle passes that force you to farm.
It’s good that there is nothing interesting in the new one, just an Israeli howitzer, another howitzer…
You are talking about Tiger I from 2018 there …Tiget today is lol penned by everything it faces thanks to constant introduction of bullshit tanks that it is facing.
They don’t snipe since apart from Hurtgen and Sinai there are no long range maps in this game
Only tanks that can lol pen them are Maus and USSR 152 mm cannons ,all others have to flank (in german tanks lol) or look for one euro weak spots that 90 % don’t work
All part of “Lets grab the money before zombies wake up” plan
I have no idea what you mean with the “lol pen”. They can be pierced normally in specific weakspots without any complicated tricks.
Especially the T34 and T26E1 are easy to defeat, only the T26E5 can pose any challenge.
I don’t care if they put in all stuff from WWII …prototypes /paper tanks even completely made up tanks …at least they will have two things in common …armor that was designed to take hit and gun designed to try and pen that armor
Stopped doing events after IS6
All missing tanks will turn up as premium or crafting crap
They lost control of their own game to very very small very vocal portion of community
Mainly Russian community, looking at the br of 2s38 or their other vehicles xD
Penned by shot at any point of their armor …frontal arc side/back …thanks to shells that either overpressure them (152) or brute force (maus)…I’ve shot T34 11 times other day in weak spot with Panther …scored “Hit” twice
Vast Majority of USA/USSR/SWE stuff is undertiered …some germans and french as well
Don’t get me started on Israeli M51 with 400 mm pen at 6.0
Where were you aiming? There are two types of weakspots, easier ones and more difficult ones requiring precision. The T34 can be destroyed by shooting at the sides of the bottom plate or, for example, with the Tiger 2 simply at the front of the turret, depending on the distance, but at long 8.8 you have about 237 mm of penetration and the front of the T34 turret has about 200 mm of armor.
I would recommend shooting with Panther at the sides of the bottom plate or at the barrel and tracks to neutralize T34.
However, you have to take into account that if you get T34, it means that you have an uptier, it’s not that if you have an uptier you still pierce everything from the front normally, especially heavy tanks.
Pz IV H
Chi Nu II
Chi To late
Chi Ri
As you can see, all of them have better P/W ratio than the Pz IV H. The Chi-Nu II is considerably smaller, the Chi-To late is better protected, and the Chi-Ri gets an assisted loader.
As for penetration, they all have a pretty significant advantage in angled pen:
AND nearly 3x the explosive filler, so needing a second shot to finish off an enemy is a much rarer ocurrence.
So while not 4.3 and 4.7 worthy, the japanese mediums are definitely better.
Wow someone made a fair comparison, bravo. You also need to remember about the transmission, the power of the engine and horses per tonne does not mean that the vehicle must be mobile.
In my opinion, Pz.4 is better and easier to play in some aspects, especially it is smaller.
I’m not sure about this mobility anyway, even despite the data you provided, I remember that even though the Chi-Nu II was quite slow, it seemed slower than the Pz.4.
Sometimes pure statistics do not tell the whole truth about a vehicle.
Nevertheless, I’m going to stop talking because I haven’t played with these Japanese tanks for a long time and you may be right.
When was that changed?
Alpha Strike.